RE: More whinging about shortcuts and keybindings ;)
Is it part of the plan that the item "Dialogs, Tool Options" be merged into the secondary toolbar? I think I recall it being mentioned.
Yes. It's in the plans.
See KeyboardProfiles - if you care about Illustrator, plan a profile
as
described on that page. I promise to implement loading keys from a
file
as soon as we have two complete profiles of different mainstream
editors.
If you clarify what exactly you mean by "complete profile" I might be able to do something, I'm pretty sure the Adobe Illustrator documentation lists all the keybindings.
See http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?KeyboardProfiles, section "What is to be done". Basically you need to compile a list of keybindings with a classification of their applicability to Inkscape.
I would hope that you will remain flexible and not reject changes just because Inkscape has been doing something a certain way before (of course when Inkscape has been around longer I'd accept this arguement occasionally).
Sure :)
View, Grid #" is a bad keybinding for Americans. if i recall correctly # is Shift+3 on an American keyboard.
What's bad with it being easy to remember? Can you find any key that looks more like a grid than #?
Also the label should probably be changed to Show Grid (and similarly Show Rulers and Show Scrollbars).
Yes, but then it must be Show/Hide, which is bulky. The menu needs to be redone so that the labels are dynamic, e.g. showing "Show grid" when no grid and "Hide grid" otherwise. Until then, let it be just "Grid".
I'd also recommend avoiding single letter keybindings for most things except the tools (but I wont be surprised if you dont think the Function keys should be changed either).
I don't know - that depends on the strength of your arguments :)
For similar reasons I'm not sure about the keybindings for Next Zoom Shift+' Prev Zoom '
Your proposal being?
(abbreviations definately not allowed!)
You mean, in the menu? I think we can take an exception, Prev is easy to understand next to Next, and they line up nicely.
but I find the whole idea a bit odd, it is like a seperate undo history for Zoom which is not something I've seen before.
Xara has a "previous zoom" command which is very convenient. Unfortunately it only takes you back to previous zoom and not further, which is why I decided to carry the idea further and implement a complete zoom history. I now use it all the time.
Group and Ungroup use the shortcuts Ctrl+G and Ctrl+U respectively which are reasonable. But given the shortage of avialable keys, the Gnome HIG, and the keybindings used by Adobe Illustrator I would suggest you consider changing it to Ctrl+Shift+G for Ungroup.
This might make sense, if you propose a compelling function for Ctrl+U. Otherwise, why disrupt? Ctrl+Shift+G for Ungroup works already exactly as Ctrl+U.
The Gnome HIG recommends the principle of using the Shifted version of a keybinding for the inverse or for related tasks. http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/draft_hig_new/input-keyboard.htm... "Use Shift-Ctrl-letter for functions that reverse or extend another function. For example, Ctrl-Z and Shift-Ctrl-Z for Undo and Redo."
We support exactly that.
Getting distracted again I notice Inkscape has "Clear All" which is grouped beside select all and I mistakenly thought it meant clear the selection i.e. "Select None".
That's a good point. I think makes sense indeed to replace "clear all" with a "deselect" command. Adding that to TODO.
File > Import?
Tried agian with a more recent build from today and I still cannot import any images (tried jpegs png and bitmaps).
Please submit a bug with detailed description.
For all my complaining I really do like Inkscape and I appreciate all the work you all put into it. We sometimes forget to thank people for all their great work so, "Thanks for the software".
You're welcome :)
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Also the label should probably be changed to Show Grid (and similarly Show Rulers and Show Scrollbars).
Yes, but then it must be Show/Hide, which is bulky. The menu needs to be redone so that the labels are dynamic, e.g. showing "Show grid" when no grid and "Hide grid" otherwise. Until then, let it be just "Grid".
Nope you dont need to have "Show/Hide Grid" just "Show Grid" is what the HIG recommends. There is no suggestion of trying to change the labels all that is expected it that you make sure to use a 'checkedmenuitem'.
Group and Ungroup use the shortcuts Ctrl+G and Ctrl+U respectively which are reasonable. But given the shortage of avialable keys, the Gnome HIG, and the keybindings used by Adobe Illustrator I would suggest you consider changing it to Ctrl+Shift+G for Ungroup.
This might make sense, if you propose a compelling function for Ctrl+U. Otherwise, why disrupt? Ctrl+Shift+G for Ungroup works already exactly as Ctrl+U.
I already said that the Gnome HIG recommends matching pairs of keybindindings because they are more memorable and in cases like this make it easier to toggle. I even looked it up and provided a reference to make it as clear as possible.
It is also the keybinding used by Adobe Illustrator.
Getting distracted again I notice Inkscape has "Clear All" which is grouped beside select all and I mistakenly thought it meant clear the selection i.e. "Select None".
That's a good point. I think makes sense indeed to replace "clear all" with a "deselect" command. Adding that to TODO.
How about Invert Selection? I think it would be more useful and if you want to Select None you can Select All then Invert it. I'll admit it is a little messier but taking my usability hat off for a moment I'd prefer the extra functionality.
Thanks
- Alan
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 19:30, bulia byak wrote:
Xara has a "previous zoom" command which is very convenient. Unfortunately it only takes you back to previous zoom and not further, which is why I decided to carry the idea further and implement a complete zoom history. I now use it all the time.
Hmm, that gives me an idea... how do you feel about the idea of having a more general 'viewport history' or something like that (which would include zoom), orthagonal to the document undo history?
-mental
That is a brilliant idea. Save like the last 10 viewport settings (position + zoom).
Jon
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 14:24, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 19:30, bulia byak wrote:
Xara has a "previous zoom" command which is very convenient. Unfortunately it only takes you back to previous zoom and not further, which is why I decided to carry the idea further and implement a complete zoom history. I now use it all the time.
Hmm, that gives me an idea... how do you feel about the idea of having a more general 'viewport history' or something like that (which would include zoom), orthagonal to the document undo history?
-mental
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