On 8/23/07, Adib Taraben <taraben.a@...1512...> wrote:

also we need to mark the things that _have to_ go into the release. I do a lot of technical drawings and for me it is absolutely necessary to include the blur into the pdf and ps export formats.

PDF does not support blur, let alone PS. The only workaround you have is to convert blur to bitmap before exporting. We may eventually add an option to do this automatically but I don't think it's particularly high priority because the workaround is easy (just press Alt+B).

john cliff wrote:

We should also think about hte about screen, what do we want to do this time with regards to that?

Given that it seems like we have some time, want to do a contest on deviantART again? We could take submissions from 9/1 to 9/15 or so. I think with all of the new features, it would be interesting to see what people come up with. I do also recall Jon Phillips wanting to try and do it via OCAL too, so if people want to do that it's all good (however Jon or some admin from OCAL will need to step up and take charge of that).

bulia, if you'd like, I could also ask people for screenshot submissions too...

-Josh

bulia byak wrote:

Yes, and like last time, we should require using some of the new features in the drawing:

• 3D box tool

• LPE

• new SVG filters

• engraving

• tweak tool

(no offence to other nice features, but these would create the most recognizable imagery).

However, I don't think we're quite ready yet. The 3D box tool isn't even enabled by default (but should be soon). I also have some additions for the Tweak tool in the works.

Agreed that those features are really good to show off. I also agree that we're not quite ready yet either, but from my perspective it's the stability of LPEs and the Filters dialog (in addition to your reasoning). The LPE undo crash is not friendly, and I seem to manage to crash with the filters dialog pretty easily too once I start to make semi-complex filters (and when you delete things that are "input" to other items). Oh, and do we want to still shoot for the premade Filters (in a menu) for this release too? I'd be happy to contribute some.

Whenever we want to run the contest, please let me (or whoever if we're going OCAL) know.

-Josh

On 8/24/07, Ted Gould <ted@...11...> wrote:

On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 09:30 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:

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Oh, and do we want to still shoot for the premade Filters (in a menu) for this release too? I'd be happy to contribute some.

I think it'd make sense to do these with effects. Then some of the parameters could be tweakable. Something like a drop shadow where you could set the color and distance.

Indeed, now that I think of it, I see no reason not to implement these presets as Python scripts.

Could anyone please start by create a sample extension effect applying an SVG filter to the selection, programmed in such a way that anyone willing to add another effect would have to do minimum Python coding (ideally none at all)?

Juca,

Please don't worry about the tentative timeframe for the about screen too much (nothing is even decided about if we'll even shoot for doing that contest in September). We've just had experiences in the past where the about screen process got slowed down, so this was an attempt at trying to get one "outside" aspect of the release solidified. However, it would be good for there to be a little public discussion about Filters in general... what is done, what needs to be done, what needs to be fixed, how much available time any interested parties think they can spare in the near future, who wants to tackle what, etc. Filters are definitely one of the significant features for this release, so the rest of the developers being in the know can only be a good thing.

Cheers, Josh

Felipe Sanches wrote:

i need some help on filters development. Maybe kiirala could help. I am not feeling that I would be able to finish them alone in just a month. I haven't had much time to work on it recently and I still don't understand everything that needs to be understood in order to properly implement everything.

Juca

On 8/24/07, *Josh Andler* <scislac@...400... mailto:scislac@...400...> wrote:

bulia byak wrote:
> Yes, and like last time, we should require using some of the new
> features in the drawing:
>
> - 3D box tool
>
> - LPE
>
> - new SVG filters
>
> - engraving
>
> - tweak tool
>
> (no offence to other nice features, but these would create the most
> recognizable imagery).
>
> However, I don't think we're quite ready yet. The 3D box tool isn't
> even enabled by default (but should be soon). I also have some
> additions for the Tweak tool in the works.
>
>

Agreed that those features are really good to show off. I also agree
that we're not quite ready yet either, but from my perspective
it's the
stability of LPEs and the Filters dialog (in addition to your
reasoning).  The LPE undo crash is not friendly, and I seem to
manage to
crash with the filters dialog pretty easily too once I start to make
semi-complex filters (and when you delete things that are "input" to
other items). Oh, and do we want to still shoot for the premade
Filters
(in a menu) for this release too? I'd be happy to contribute some.

Whenever we want to run the contest, please let me (or whoever if
we're
going OCAL) know.

-Josh