Ted and anyone else, We should definitely try and get into this conference in JAPAN! Ted, it would be cool to post your presentation and paper up on the wiki and then we can keep adapting and changing and moving parts to other presentations. That way we can distributively get the project out there and while you can present at OSCON, I would love to present at KEIO UNIVERSITY in JAPAN. Maybe we could get a team of us there to present and meet with other SVG folk. Jon