Hi all,
I've just been accepted as an "Invited Expert" to the SVG working group to represent Inkscape's interests in the evolution of the SVG standard. There seems to be a renewed effort to get a new standard out the door. The plan is to publish independently a number of "closely-tied" modules that will be bundled eventually as SVG 2.0. This is your chance to influence what that standard will be. I've started a Wiki page to facilitate this work:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_WorkingGroup
Please add to the page your observations of problems with the current standard and what you want in the future standard.
Tav
2010/6/14 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...>:
Hi all,
I've just been accepted as an "Invited Expert" to the SVG working group to represent Inkscape's interests in the evolution of the SVG standard. There seems to be a renewed effort to get a new standard out the door. The plan is to publish independently a number of "closely-tied" modules that will be bundled eventually as SVG 2.0. This is your chance to influence what that standard will be. I've started a Wiki page to facilitate this work:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_WorkingGroup
Please add to the page your observations of problems with the current standard and what you want in the future standard.
Power stroke and pattern along path can be a vector effect. In fact, power stroke is a subset of pattern along path.
The page says "Firefox and IE will not add support for SVG fonts". I thought that Firefox will add it eventually, just not in the 3.x series. It's required to pass Acid3.
Regards, Krzysztof
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 16:01 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2010/6/14 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...>:
Hi all,
I've just been accepted as an "Invited Expert" to the SVG working groupto represent Inkscape's interests in the evolution of the SVG standard. There seems to be a renewed effort to get a new standard out the door. The plan is to publish independently a number of "closely-tied" modules that will be bundled eventually as SVG 2.0. This is your chance to influence what that standard will be. I've started a Wiki page to facilitate this work:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_WorkingGroupPlease add to the page your observations of problems with the current standard and what you want in the future standard.
Power stroke and pattern along path can be a vector effect. In fact, power stroke is a subset of pattern along path.
"Vector Effects" refers to the proposed SVG1.2 like specification, see:
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/vectoreffects/master/SVGVectorEffectsPrimer.ht...
In principle pattern along path can be added to Vector Effects but I am not sure this would happen. And while power stroke could be implemented as a special case of pattern along path there was interest expressed at LGM in being able to animate it which could be much simpler to do than trying to animate pattern along path.
The page says "Firefox and IE will not add support for SVG fonts". I thought that Firefox will add it eventually, just not in the 3.x series. It's required to pass Acid3.
There has been a lot of discussion on the www-svg@...157... mailing list about fonts. SVG fonts may not even be kept in the 2.0 standard (replaced by WOFF). Being required to pass Acid3 isn't enough motivation for Firefox. See comments in bug report (especially comments #49 and #52):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119490
Tav
W dniu 20 czerwca 2010 08:20 użytkownik Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> napisał:
"Vector Effects" refers to the proposed SVG1.2 like specification, see:
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/vectoreffects/master/SVGVectorEffectsPrimer.ht...
Yes, I know :) I thought of power stroke and pattern-along-path as an Inkscape-specific vector effect that resides inside a switch, along with its output (svg:path). I think the switch mechanism will be needed anyway, because even the standard effects could use fallbacks to show correctly in SVG 1.1 viewers.
There has been a lot of discussion on the www-svg@...157... mailing list about fonts. SVG fonts may not even be kept in the 2.0 standard (replaced by WOFF). Being required to pass Acid3 isn't enough motivation for Firefox. See comments in bug report (especially comments #49 and #52):
That is somewhat lame. I get the rationale, but SVG Fonts offer possibilities that are not provided by normal TrueType fonts (which WOFF essentially is), for example colored glyphs. I hope they eventually will get implemented in FF.
Regards, Krzysztof
On Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:04:24 PM, Krzysztof wrote:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119490
KK> That is somewhat lame. I get the rationale, but SVG Fonts offer KK> possibilities that are not provided by normal TrueType fonts (which KK> WOFF essentially is), for example colored glyphs. I hope they KK> eventually will get implemented in FF.
Feel free to comment on that bug (or at more length on www-svg) to explain the use cases and rationale to the mozilla developers.
SVG fonts also could provide stroked glyphs and a lot of other interesting things. I hope their support will not be removed from Inkscape !
ivan
________________________________ De : Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...400...> À : Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> Cc : Inkscape Devel List inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé le : Mar 22 juin 2010, 18h 04min 24s Objet : Re: [Inkscape-devel] SVG Working Group
W dniu 20 czerwca 2010 08:20 użytkownik Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> napisał:
"Vector Effects" refers to the proposed SVG1.2 like specification, see:
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/vectoreffects/master/SVGVectorEffectsPrimer.ht...
Yes, I know :) I thought of power stroke and pattern-along-path as an Inkscape-specific vector effect that resides inside a switch, along with its output (svg:path). I think the switch mechanism will be needed anyway, because even the standard effects could use fallbacks to show correctly in SVG 1.1 viewers.
There has been a lot of discussion on the www-svg@...157... mailing list about fonts. SVG fonts may not even be kept in the 2.0 standard (replaced by WOFF). Being required to pass Acid3 isn't enough motivation for Firefox. See comments in bug report (especially comments #49 and #52):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119490
That is somewhat lame. I get the rationale, but SVG Fonts offer possibilities that are not provided by normal TrueType fonts (which WOFF essentially is), for example colored glyphs. I hope they eventually will get implemented in FF.
Regards, Krzysztof
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2010/6/22 Krzysztof Kosiński
That is somewhat lame. I get the rationale, but SVG Fonts offer possibilities that are not provided by normal TrueType fonts (which WOFF essentially is), for example colored glyphs. I hope they eventually will get implemented in FF.
FF as in FontForge or Firefox? :) Because FontForge does export WOFF.
Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org
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