Hey folks, I've just started using this wonderful masterpiece of a drawing tool, but soon ran into a big problem. I wanted to create a web design with interwoven ribbons, and when I saw the calligraphy tool I thought my problems where solved. But one object can only have one z-index, not multiple - which does makes sense, but means the ribbon is either on top of or below another. So I thought, mmh... I might just slice them up in between and give the parts different z-orders, which actually worked. The problem is, I want the ribbons to have an outline, and so the seam has an outline too. And I have no clue how to get rid of that now - and can not continue on my design :( I have posted this on the request feature list already, but sorry I am so eager to get this behind and go on drawing... so I'm wondering what do you devs say about that? ..and thx for such a great program ;) Marcel
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 09:42:29PM +0200, Marcel Partap wrote:
Hey folks, I've just started using this wonderful masterpiece of a drawing tool, but soon ran into a big problem. I wanted to create a web design with interwoven ribbons, and when I saw the calligraphy tool I thought my problems where solved. But one object can only have one z-index, not multiple - which does makes sense, but means the ribbon is either on top of or below another. So I thought, mmh... I might just slice them up in between and give the parts different z-orders, which actually worked. The problem is, I want the ribbons to have an outline, and so the seam has an outline too. And I have no clue how to get rid of that now - and can not continue on my design :( I have posted this on the request feature list already, but sorry I am so eager to get this behind and go on drawing... so I'm wondering what do you devs say about that? ..and thx for such a great program ;) Marcel
I did something like that a while back:
http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot2.png http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot_gold.png
Yeah, it's kind of time consuming to get the outlines overlapping correctly.
Bryce
Bryce Harrington wrote:
I did something like that a while back: http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot2.png http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot_gold.png
oh yeah that's what I mean... You copied a port of the ribbon without stroke to cover the seam, right?
Yeah, it's kind of time consuming to get the outlines overlapping correctly.
definite.. that can't be the best solution can it? I mean, heck.. *g there ought to be some other way.. I mean.. mmhh.. can't the outline be disabled for the side where the seam is? Or, automatically seam covering function? Same brain reading magic so the program always knows what it should do? [Ohhh please, I'd buy a magic USB brain scanner for that.. *g] oh well but you at least gave me an idea how to work around that for now. Marcel
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 10:39:24PM +0200, Marcel Partap wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
I did something like that a while back: http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot2.png http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot_gold.png
oh yeah that's what I mean... You copied a port of the ribbon without stroke to cover the seam, right?
Yeah, it's kind of time consuming to get the outlines overlapping correctly.
definite.. that can't be the best solution can it? I mean, heck.. *g there ought to be some other way.. I mean.. mmhh.. can't the outline be disabled for the side where the seam is? Or, automatically seam covering function? Same brain reading magic so the program always knows what it should do? [Ohhh please, I'd buy a magic USB brain scanner for that.. *g] oh well but you at least gave me an idea how to work around that for now. Marcel
Heh, well at least now days there are boolean operations to cut pieces out and stuff. Back when I did this art, I had to manually cut and fit all the pieces together.
I agree it'd be nice to have a programmatic way to do this. If you can code, maybe you could write a script to handle it? Then we could add that feature to Inkscape as an effect, too. :-)
Bryce
Hey Marcel, The easiest way is to make use of the split path between two none endpoint nodes button in the node edit toolbar (5th from the left), plus gratiutous use of the duplicate function. When you remove the paths at the end of the shapes it changes what area gets filled, messing them up if you try and do both fill and stroke on the same shape, when this happens, turn off the stroke, duplicate the shape, turn the stroke back on on the duplicate, turn the fill off then remove the curve segment.
Hope that makes sense.
John
--- Marcel Partap <mpartap@...240...> wrote:
Hey folks, I've just started using this wonderful masterpiece of a drawing tool, but soon ran into a big problem. I wanted to create a web design with interwoven ribbons, and when I saw the calligraphy tool I thought my problems where solved. But one object can only have one z-index, not multiple - which does makes sense, but means the ribbon is either on top of or below another. So I thought, mmh... I might just slice them up in between and give the parts different z-orders, which actually worked. The problem is, I want the ribbons to have an outline, and so the seam has an outline too. And I have no clue how to get rid of that now - and can not continue on my design :( I have posted this on the request feature list already, but sorry I am so eager to get this behind and go on drawing... so I'm wondering what do you devs say about that? ..and thx for such a great program ;) Marcel
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Marcel Partap wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
I did something like that a while back: http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot2.png http://bryceharrington.com/celtic_knot_gold.png
oh yeah that's what I mean... You copied a port of the ribbon without stroke to cover the seam, right?
Yeah, it's kind of time consuming to get the outlines overlapping correctly.
definite.. that can't be the best solution can it? I mean, heck.. *g there ought to be some other way.. I mean.. mmhh.. can't the outline be disabled for the side where the seam is? Or, automatically seam covering function? Same brain reading magic so the program always knows what it should do? [Ohhh please, I'd buy a magic USB brain scanner for that.. *g] oh well but you at least gave me an idea how to work around that for now.
how about this as a workaround? http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/inkscape/ribbons.svg
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