On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:35:54 +0200, Aewyn <aewyn@...523...> wrote:
Working with lot's of semi transparent objects I ran a serious problem. I can't select an object underlaying objects, bacause at this moment the object upper is selected.
I can use tab to switch objects, but working with 100 object, it is impossible.
So it would be nice a view "wireframe", with possibility border selecting.
Wireframe view is in our plans, but not in the short term. Instead I just did what I wanted to do for a long time, hopefully it will help:
* Select Under: in Selector, clicking with Alt selects the object at cursor which is below (in z-order) the currently selected object at cursor; if the bottom object is selected, Alt+click again selects the top object. Thus, several Alt+clicks will cycle selection through the z-order stack at the click point. Combining Alt with Ctrl and Shift works, too. Note that on Linux, some window managers steal Alt+click, but Ctrl+Alt+click ("select under in groups") and Shift+Alt+click ("select under, add to selection") will still work.
And also as a helpful reminder,
* Pressing Alt, Ctrl, or Shift displays the function of these modifiers in the statusbar (only in Selector so far).
This is in CVS now.
Really usefull ! Thank you Bulia
bulia byak wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:35:54 +0200, Aewyn <aewyn@...523...> wrote:
Working with lot's of semi transparent objects I ran a serious problem. I can't select an object underlaying objects, bacause at this moment the object upper is selected.
I can use tab to switch objects, but working with 100 object, it is impossible.
So it would be nice a view "wireframe", with possibility border selecting.
Wireframe view is in our plans, but not in the short term. Instead I just did what I wanted to do for a long time, hopefully it will help:
- Select Under: in Selector, clicking with Alt selects the object at
cursor which is below (in z-order) the currently selected object at cursor; if the bottom object is selected, Alt+click again selects the top object. Thus, several Alt+clicks will cycle selection through the z-order stack at the click point. Combining Alt with Ctrl and Shift works, too. Note that on Linux, some window managers steal Alt+click, but Ctrl+Alt+click ("select under in groups") and Shift+Alt+click ("select under, add to selection") will still work.
And also as a helpful reminder,
- Pressing Alt, Ctrl, or Shift displays the function of these
modifiers in the statusbar (only in Selector so far).
This is in CVS now.
- Select Under: in Selector, clicking with Alt selects the object at
cursor which is below (in z-order) the currently selected object at cursor; if the bottom object is selected, Alt+click again selects the top object. Thus, several Alt+clicks will cycle selection through the z-order stack at the click point. Combining Alt with Ctrl and Shift works, too. Note that on Linux, some window managers steal Alt+click, but Ctrl+Alt+click ("select under in groups") and Shift+Alt+click ("select under, add to selection") will still work.
But how to `modifie with the mouse` the object below ? For example : I select an object that is below an other, and after this want to move it; a click-drag on this selected area select and move the object at the top.
FlorentGabriel
But how to `modifie with the mouse` the object below ? For example : I select an object that is below an other, and after this want to move it; a click-drag on this selected area select and move the object at the top.
You can resize/rotate/skew the object that you selected by alt-click as usual with handles, and you can move it with arrow keys (I always use arrows for moving). However you are right that dragging such object with mouse won't work because it will switch the selection to the topmost object again. I think what we need is a new Alt+drag mode which would mean "drag what is selected now, without selecting anything else no matter where I start the drag." I will think about it some more and if I don't find any problems with this idea I'll implement it.
I think what we need is a new Alt+drag mode which would mean "drag what is selected now, without selecting anything else no matter where I start the drag."
I implemented this in CVS. So here are the release notes for both features:
* Select Under: in Selector, clicking with Alt selects the object at cursor which is below (in z-order) the currently selected object at cursor; if the bottom object is selected, Alt+click again selects the top object. Thus, several Alt+clicks will cycle selection through the z-order stack at the click point. Combining Alt with Ctrl ("select in groups") and Shift ("add to selection") works, too. Note that on Linux, some window managers steal Alt+click by default; reconfigure your WM so you can use Alt+click in Inkscape.
* Drag Selected: dragging with Alt in Selector moves the currently selected object(s) no matter where you start the drag, unlike regular drag that first selects the object under cursor. This is convenient for dragging objects that are behind other objects in z-order. On Linux you may have to disable dragging the window with Alt if you want to use this.
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