Have you tried out inkview for running the presentations?

Bryce

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Ashwin Bharambe wrote:

Thanks everybody. I much appreciate your responses. I will take a look at the roadmap and the wiki and (might :) start implementing these features as soon as I get familiar with the code. My main motivation is making presentations using SVG.

Ashwin

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:02:16 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:

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http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Animation-(Timeline) has our current notes on suggested user interface and similar implementation notes.

pjrm.

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Thanks again. Here are some of my thoughts on presentations using SVG and why current programs don't meet my needs (if one does, I would be very glad to learn about it):

By a presentation, I mostly mean a powerpoint presentation! We have had two types of presentation programs on linux: a) TeX based (magicpoint, prosper, etc.) which look really pretty except that drawing figures is hard and animations seem almost impossible. b) Powerpoint-like (kpresenter, etc.) where text and figures can be drawn using an integrated UI -- but frankly, they are far from looking pretty since the rendering sucks.

With SVG and renderers like inkscape and cairo, we have the possibility of constructing a powerpoint-like presenter with a very professional and pretty feel. Given that SVG has support for animation, it would be a natural format to store a presentation (instead of yet another new format!)

For drawing within an animation, one would not have to use all of inkscape's features, I think. Typically, figures within an animation are simple -- however, one could use inkscape to generate a powerful and useful library of useful images.

Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome! Ashwin

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:01:28 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 08:40:11PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:

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Have you tried out inkview for running the presentations?

Just to clarify for Ashwin: inkview doesn't render animation either. inkview simply allows paging through a number of SVG images, and has a full-screen mode (F11). man inkview.

MagicPoint (mgp) has an interesting feature of allowing embedding arbitrary X processes in the presentation. Depending on what sort of animation you're interested in, you may find this useful. (This feature is of course a security concern when viewing random .mgp files from strangers, so it may be disabled in your default install.)

(I believe it uses Gtk Socket/Plug for this, if anyone's interested in adding such a feature to some other software.)

pjrm.

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, herve couvelard wrote:

Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:18:39 +0100 From: herve couvelard <herve.couvelard@...26...> Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Animation

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For drawing within an animation, one would not have to use all of inkscape's features, I think. Typically, figures within an animation are simple -- however, one could use inkscape to generate a powerful and useful library of useful images.

Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome! Ashwin

Will the solution you are thinking of is some kind of '.exe' (that is to say a document with inkview as viewer and all the animation stuff are encapsulated in that document (played only by inkview), or a 'svg generator stuf' that coud create object incorporated in a web page (as object) and played by the plug-in of the browser ?

I am thinking of using SVG (and javascript) to provide a replacement for flash animation on our websites. For the moment, i planned to look at the svg language to 'catch' the way it work and implemente it 'by hand'. Would your solution be a usefull-replacement for hand-home-made-svg ?

Depending on what type of Animation you want it would be well worth your time looking at SMIL. SMIL should be very effective for linking many pages into a presentation with fairly basic transitions, so at the very least it should make the basics of animation (particularly the timing) more straightforward. It helps that Adobe SVG Viewer, Realplayer and Apple Quicktime are all SMIL aware (dont know about Microsoft, they decided to mostly copy SMIL and do their own "HTML+TIME" instead).

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