Blogs for Inkscape contributers (mainly SoC)
Hi everyone,
I am going to be setting up WordPress blogs for those who would like one, in response to the request for them for SoC people. Any Inkscape contributer is eligible for a blog, and you are very much encouraged to write one : ).
I am going to set them up on the default "Kubrick" template, but if you want to customise yours you are free to do so. I will help people out with admin issues... but if such issues are created by you writing a template, adding plugins, etc. I won't be able to help (sorry, but I don't have time).
Details I need are:
1) Name 2) E-mail address 3) A 'title' for your blog
When it is set up I will email you details so that you can log into your account and begin blogging. You will be the administrator and responsible for doing any configuration that you need/want (don't worry there's nothing hard). However, as I say, I am willing to help with problems so long as said problems are not the result of plugins or themes you've added.
Jon
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am going to be setting up WordPress blogs for those who would like one, in response to the request for them for SoC people. Any Inkscape contributer is eligible for a blog, and you are very much encouraged to write one : ).
Last time when we talked about blogs I offered to setup on the website an aggregator for those blogs (Planet Inkscape). After working a couple of days on that, I found that Sourceforge.net will not allow us to run the Planet, so the only solution is to host it elsewhere. Unfortunately, I can't host it either on my personal website. So if we want an aggergator, a place to host it is needed. The system requrements are simple (python and cron) and I believe the traffic is not very big.
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am going to be setting up WordPress blogs for those who would like one, in response to the request for them for SoC people. Any Inkscape contributer is eligible for a blog, and you are very much encouraged to write one : ).
Last time when we talked about blogs I offered to setup on the website an aggregator for those blogs (Planet Inkscape). After working a couple of days on that, I found that Sourceforge.net will not allow us to run the Planet, so the only solution is to host it elsewhere. Unfortunately, I can't host it either on my personal website. So if we want an aggergator, a place to host it is needed. The system requrements are simple (python and cron) and I believe the traffic is not very big.
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
Jon
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:26:32PM +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am going to be setting up WordPress blogs for those who would like one, in response to the request for them for SoC people. Any Inkscape contributer is eligible for a blog, and you are very much encouraged to write one : ).
Last time when we talked about blogs I offered to setup on the website an aggregator for those blogs (Planet Inkscape). After working a couple of days on that, I found that Sourceforge.net will not allow us to run the Planet, so the only solution is to host it elsewhere. Unfortunately, I can't host it either on my personal website. So if we want an aggergator, a place to host it is needed. The system requrements are simple (python and cron) and I believe the traffic is not very big.
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
That's a good idea; fdo's allowed us to run planet.openclipart.org through them, and I bet they'd be open to hosting a planet.inkscape.org as well.
Bryce
Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:26:32PM +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
That's a good idea; fdo's allowed us to run planet.openclipart.org through them, and I bet they'd be open to hosting a planet.inkscape.org as well.
Well, if you say so, here is it: http://create.freedesktop.org/planet_inkscape/
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:26:32PM +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
That's a good idea; fdo's allowed us to run planet.openclipart.org through them, and I bet they'd be open to hosting a planet.inkscape.org as well.
Well, if you say so, here is it: http://create.freedesktop.org/planet_inkscape/
Cool. But I think Bryce means that they can actually host the address "planet.inkscape.org". Mental could set up the DNS stuff to point it to fd.o, and then you could get Daniel Stone to set up a virtual host for it. I think?
Jon
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 10:49 +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:26:32PM +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
That's a good idea; fdo's allowed us to run planet.openclipart.org through them, and I bet they'd be open to hosting a planet.inkscape.org as well.
Well, if you say so, here is it: http://create.freedesktop.org/planet_inkscape/
Cool. But I think Bryce means that they can actually host the address "planet.inkscape.org". Mental could set up the DNS stuff to point it to fd.o, and then you could get Daniel Stone to set up a virtual host for it. I think?
Ok, but how will the Inkscape look and feel stay updated with the Inkscape site?
Has someone taken the lead on getting this to happen with fdo? The best way is to file a bug and then hang in their chat channel like a badger (unfortunately...but maybe like a nice badger).
Jon
Jon Phillips wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Well, if you say so, here is it: http://create.freedesktop.org/planet_inkscape/
Ok, but how will the Inkscape look and feel stay updated with the Inkscape site?
It can't be done without manual intervention each time when Inkscape site is changing. I made it to match the Inkscape look and feel when I though it will be hosted on sf.net and had the possibility to reuse the main template, style sheet etc. I guess I will change the template completely and keep only the CSS the same, probably this week-end.
Has someone taken the lead on getting this to happen with fdo? The best way is to file a bug and then hang in their chat channel like a badger (unfortunately...but maybe like a nice badger).
AFAIK none has taken this initiative. I am yet not very sure f.d.o will not consider this hosting of Planet as an abuse from us.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:26:32PM +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am going to be setting up WordPress blogs for those who would like one, in response to the request for them for SoC people. Any Inkscape contributer is eligible for a blog, and you are very much encouraged to write one : ).
fd.o would probably be happy to host it -- planetinkscape.freedesktop.org or something ?
That's a good idea; fdo's allowed us to run planet.openclipart.org through them, and I bet they'd be open to hosting a planet.inkscape.org as well.
Having a Planet Inkscape News Aggregation site would be great.
I get the impression you also intend hosting the journals themselves but I would recommend against that for various reasons. Essentially there are advantages to joining a wider community and having Planet Inkscape would make it largely unnecessary to host the journals themselves. (I'll explain further if necessary.)
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org
Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005, MenTaLguY wrote:
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:22:46 -0400 From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Jonathan Leighton <turnip@...583...>, inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Blogs for Inkscape contributers (mainly SoC)
I get the impression you also intend hosting the journals themselves but I would recommend against that for various reasons.
Just for those people who don't have journal hosting otherwise. People are encouraged to use their existing journals if they have one.
Futher to that I want to encourage people to sign up to places like Livejournal (or Blogger, although it is not open source it is a good service). It helps make them part of a larger community and can be very helpful if they want to do things like allow comments to only registered users. If they lose interest in Inkscape at some point for whatever reason (developers move on to other projects all the time) in the future they might prefer if their journal were hosted elsewhere.
I thought I had more reasons than that but I forget. If you want to provide the service and leave the decision is up to them then fair enough.
- Alan
Alan Horkan wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005, MenTaLguY wrote:
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:22:46 -0400 From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Jonathan Leighton <turnip@...583...>, inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Blogs for Inkscape contributers (mainly SoC)
I get the impression you also intend hosting the journals themselves but I would recommend against that for various reasons.
Just for those people who don't have journal hosting otherwise. People are encouraged to use their existing journals if they have one.
Futher to that I want to encourage people to sign up to places like Livejournal (or Blogger, although it is not open source it is a good service). It helps make them part of a larger community and can be very helpful if they want to do things like allow comments to only registered users. If they lose interest in Inkscape at some point for whatever reason (developers move on to other projects all the time) in the future they might prefer if their journal were hosted elsewhere.
I thought I had more reasons than that but I forget. If you want to provide the service and leave the decision is up to them then fair enough.
I personally feel we're doing them a favour giving them WordPress, because (im speaking from experience) it is far, far superior to both Blogger and LJ. At the end of the day it's the person's choice, and we're not dictating where they have their blog (if at all), but just providing the service should they need/want it.
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Alan Horkan wrote:
I get the impression you also intend hosting the journals themselves but I would recommend against that for various reasons.
I personally feel we're doing them a favour giving them WordPress, because (im speaking from experience) it is far, far superior to both Blogger and LJ. At the end of the day it's the person's choice, and we're not dictating where they have their blog (if at all), but just providing the service should they need/want it.
recently GNOME started offering blog hosting for developers. what I see is that several people moved from their independent blogs to the ones provided by GNOME. this may be also the case for Inkscape people which may prefer to avoid the maintenance of their own blog, can't afford to pay for hosting/bandwidth or just want the features of WorPress
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 10:12 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Alan Horkan wrote:
I get the impression you also intend hosting the journals themselves but I would recommend against that for various reasons.
I personally feel we're doing them a favour giving them WordPress, because (im speaking from experience) it is far, far superior to both Blogger and LJ. At the end of the day it's the person's choice, and we're not dictating where they have their blog (if at all), but just providing the service should they need/want it.
recently GNOME started offering blog hosting for developers. what I see is that several people moved from their independent blogs to the ones provided by GNOME. this may be also the case for Inkscape people which may prefer to avoid the maintenance of their own blog, can't afford to pay for hosting/bandwidth or just want the features of WorPress
At the same time, the focus of Inkscape is to build Inkscape and not admin and manage blogs. While there are many things related to developing Inkscape, would offering blogs take away too much focus from working on Inkscape? I think offering planet is slightly different in that it is automatic and shows what developers are doing. However, hosting blogs gets us into this sf.net like area. I dunno...maybe I'm off in thinking this...
Jon
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:57 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
At the same time, the focus of Inkscape is to build Inkscape and not admin and manage blogs. While there are many things related to developing Inkscape, would offering blogs take away too much focus from working on Inkscape? I think offering planet is slightly different in that it is automatic and shows what developers are doing. However, hosting blogs gets us into this sf.net like area. I dunno...maybe I'm off in thinking this...
I dunno, I think it's a valid concern...
-mental
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 20:40 -0400, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:57 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
At the same time, the focus of Inkscape is to build Inkscape and not admin and manage blogs. While there are many things related to developing Inkscape, would offering blogs take away too much focus from working on Inkscape? I think offering planet is slightly different in that it is automatic and shows what developers are doing. However, hosting blogs gets us into this sf.net like area. I dunno...maybe I'm off in thinking this...
I dunno, I think it's a valid concern...
Wait, are you saying my concern is valid?
Jon
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 23:33 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 20:40 -0400, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:57 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
At the same time, the focus of Inkscape is to build Inkscape and not admin and manage blogs. While there are many things related to developing Inkscape, would offering blogs take away too much focus from working on Inkscape? I think offering planet is slightly different in that it is automatic and shows what developers are doing. However, hosting blogs gets us into this sf.net like area. I dunno...maybe I'm off in thinking this...
I dunno, I think it's a valid concern...
Wait, are you saying my concern is valid?
Yes.
-mental
MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 23:33 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 20:40 -0400, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:57 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
At the same time, the focus of Inkscape is to build Inkscape and not admin and manage blogs. While there are many things related to developing Inkscape, would offering blogs take away too much focus from working on Inkscape? I think offering planet is slightly different in that it is automatic and shows what developers are doing. However, hosting blogs gets us into this sf.net like area. I dunno...maybe I'm off in thinking this...
I dunno, I think it's a valid concern...
Wait, are you saying my concern is valid?
Yes.
I agree with the concern too. But I dunno. Frankly I don't give a damn either way -- I have PLENTY to occupy myself with at the moment. However, if blogs are wanted I'll set them up. We need to come to a decision -- I can't do that cause if it's left up to me I'd say not to do it. The facts are: 2 out of 4 of the SoC people have requested blogs. No one else has.
Jon
Quoting Jonathan Leighton <turnip@...583...>:
I agree with the concern too. But I dunno. Frankly I don't give a damn either way -- I have PLENTY to occupy myself with at the moment.
However, if blogs are wanted I'll set them up. We need to come to a decision -- I can't do that cause if it's left up to me I'd say not to do it. The facts are: 2 out of 4 of the SoC people have requested blogs.
Hmm. I think we should do it now that we've offered, but first make it clear that the blogs will be frozen at the end of the SoC.
Otherwise we're signing ourselves up for an indefinitely long maintainence task that we can't really commit to.
-mental
mental@...3... wrote:
Quoting Jonathan Leighton <turnip@...583...>:
I agree with the concern too. But I dunno. Frankly I don't give a damn either way -- I have PLENTY to occupy myself with at the moment.
However, if blogs are wanted I'll set them up. We need to come to a decision -- I can't do that cause if it's left up to me I'd say not to do it. The facts are: 2 out of 4 of the SoC people have requested blogs.
Hmm. I think we should do it now that we've offered, but first make it clear that the blogs will be frozen at the end of the SoC.
Otherwise we're signing ourselves up for an indefinitely long maintainence task that we can't really commit to.
Ok, good idea. You're right.
So, SoC participants: we'll offer you a blog, with which you can blog about you SoC activities, but it will be frozen when you finish your SoC stuff. Cool?
Jon
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 22:09 +0000, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
mental@...3... wrote:
Quoting Jonathan Leighton <turnip@...583...>:
I agree with the concern too. But I dunno. Frankly I don't give a damn either way -- I have PLENTY to occupy myself with at the moment.
However, if blogs are wanted I'll set them up. We need to come to a decision -- I can't do that cause if it's left up to me I'd say not to do it. The facts are: 2 out of 4 of the SoC people have requested blogs.
Hmm. I think we should do it now that we've offered, but first make it clear that the blogs will be frozen at the end of the SoC.
Otherwise we're signing ourselves up for an indefinitely long maintainence task that we can't really commit to.
Ok, good idea. You're right.
So, SoC participants: we'll offer you a blog, with which you can blog about you SoC activities, but it will be frozen when you finish your SoC stuff. Cool?
I don't think we should offer blogs at all. I think this is the participants responsibility. Also, I think that we shouldn't offer and then cut off as that is kinda not good for these people to feel like they should continue working on Inkscape.
I can invite anyone who wants a blog on tribe.net. That is free and really good quality. Also, it will be around forever. I used that blog on that site as well. I think we need to nip in the bud adding more maintenance tasks and also want to encourage people to stick around. I would be willing to help any participant of Inkscape SoC to set up a blog off-site.
Jon
Jon Phillips wrote:
I don't think we should offer blogs at all. I think this is the participants responsibility. Also, I think that we shouldn't offer and then cut off as that is kinda not good for these people to feel like they should continue working on Inkscape.
I can invite anyone who wants a blog on tribe.net. That is free and really good quality. Also, it will be around forever. I used that blog on that site as well. I think we need to nip in the bud adding more maintenance tasks and also want to encourage people to stick around. I would be willing to help any participant of Inkscape SoC to set up a blog off-site.
I'd agree if we had not already offered the blogs. To be honest it won't be a great difficulty because SF has an SVN client installed so I can just do a straight checkout of the release tag and set it up.
Michael and Greg (the two who wanted blogs), what do you think about this? What are your opinions? Would you be happy setting up an off-site blog instead?
Jon
On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Michael and Greg (the two who wanted blogs), what do you think about this? What are your opinions? Would you be happy setting up an off-site blog instead?
Yes, I'm happy to set up an off-site one. Looking into it this afternoon.
Cheers, Michael
Michael Wybrow wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Michael and Greg (the two who wanted blogs), what do you think about this? What are your opinions? Would you be happy setting up an off-site blog instead?
Yes, I'm happy to set up an off-site one. Looking into it this afternoon.
Ok good, that settles it. Sorry about the mess everyone! (And good luck with your blogging careers ; )
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Michael Wybrow wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Michael and Greg (the two who wanted blogs), what do you think about this? What are your opinions? Would you be happy setting up an off-site blog instead?
Yes, I'm happy to set up an off-site one. Looking into it this afternoon.
Okay, I've set up my (soon-to-be-busily-populated) blog: http://code.samediff.net/
Nicu, the feed to use for planet_inkscape would be: http://code.samediff.net/category/inkscape/feed/rss2
Thanks, Michael
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