
Greetings I've posted this suggestion in user-inkscape and in the Inkscape Forums. Since I can't help on coding, I just registered blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/+spec/kidscape-projectin Inkscape Launchpad. If you like this idea, please contribute. Let's discuss. God bless you all

I disagree. We shouldn't limit our children. Let them tinker freely with the full features of inkscape.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Ocetalo <zelus.et.radix@...400...> wrote:
Greetings I've posted this suggestion in user-inkscape and in the Inkscape Forums. Since I can't help on coding, I just registered blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/+spec/kidscape-projectin Inkscape Launchpad. If you like this idea, please contribute. Let's discuss. God bless you all
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Well for very young kids it would be easy to get into, for instance 'node-editing' mode accidentally, and not be able to understand what's going on.
Maybe as toolbar and menu customization are improved, 'kidscape' could just be a simpler set of default menus and tools. This would have the benefit that no separate application must be maintained, and advanced features can easily be enabled in as kids are ready for/interested in them... (Felipe you can show your kids how to customize the menus themselves ;) )
-Tom
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Felipe Sanches <felipe.sanches@...400...> wrote:
I disagree. We shouldn't limit our children. Let them tinker freely with the full features of inkscape.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Ocetalo <zelus.et.radix@...400...> wrote:
Greetings I've posted this suggestion in user-inkscape and in the Inkscape Forums.
Since I can't help on coding, I just registered blueprint in Inkscape Launchpad. If you like this idea, please contribute. Let's discuss.
God bless you all
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Here are some comments from 7th-graders on their use of Inkscape: http://webbict.ethink.org.uk/2007/03/07/7w-designing-logos/
(via an old -devel post)
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Felipe Sanches <felipe.sanches@...400...> wrote:
you can show your kids how to customize the menus themselves ;)
yeah. That's much better

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 04:41:21PM -0800, Tom Davidson wrote:
Well for very young kids it would be easy to get into, for instance 'node-editing' mode accidentally, and not be able to understand what's going on.
Maybe as toolbar and menu customization are improved, 'kidscape' could just be a simpler set of default menus and tools. This would have the benefit that no separate application must be maintained, and advanced features can easily be enabled in as kids are ready for/interested in them... (Felipe you can show your kids how to customize the menus themselves ;) )
Yeah, I like that idea...
http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/inklite
Bryce

On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 20:08 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 04:41:21PM -0800, Tom Davidson wrote:
Well for very young kids it would be easy to get into, for instance 'node-editing' mode accidentally, and not be able to understand what's going on.
Maybe as toolbar and menu customization are improved, 'kidscape' could just be a simpler set of default menus and tools. This would have the benefit that no separate application must be maintained, and advanced features can easily be enabled in as kids are ready for/interested in them... (Felipe you can show your kids how to customize the menus themselves ;) )
Yeah, I like that idea...
http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/inklite
Bryce
Or, there is always the inkcore way to do it...but yours is suppper simple line-o-sight...
http://rejon.org/2007/01/02/the-open-source-raster-core-gegl-004-released/
Jon
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Jon Phillips wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 20:08 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 04:41:21PM -0800, Tom Davidson wrote:
Well for very young kids it would be easy to get into, for instance 'node-editing' mode accidentally, and not be able to understand what's going on.
Maybe as toolbar and menu customization are improved, 'kidscape' could just be a simpler set of default menus and tools. This would have the benefit that no separate application must be maintained, and advanced features can easily be enabled in as kids are ready for/interested in them... (Felipe you can show your kids how to customize the menus themselves ;) )
Yeah, I like that idea...
http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/inklite
Bryce
Or, there is always the inkcore way to do it...but yours is suppper simple line-o-sight...
http://rejon.org/2007/01/02/the-open-source-raster-core-gegl-004-released/
Jon
I also think the lite toolbar and menu system is the way to go - this would be great to fit in with the OLPC project - maybe a simple way for OLPC users to install - does sugar use a yum respository ? If so we could add a special package with the "lite" configuration. Inkscapers with kids are probably the best source to see which menu/toolbar configurations work the best.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:24:52AM -0700, MilesTogoe wrote:
I also think the lite toolbar and menu system is the way to go - this would be great to fit in with the OLPC project - maybe a simple way for OLPC users to install - does sugar use a yum respository ? If so we could add a special package with the "lite" configuration. Inkscapers with kids are probably the best source to see which menu/toolbar configurations work the best.
Aside from the UI, the OLPC would require Inkscape to be slimmed both in terms of memory and disk footprint (including space required by pre-requisite libraries), as I understand it.
Bryce

On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 16:32 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:24:52AM -0700, MilesTogoe wrote:
I also think the lite toolbar and menu system is the way to go - this would be great to fit in with the OLPC project - maybe a simple way for OLPC users to install - does sugar use a yum respository ? If so we could add a special package with the "lite" configuration. Inkscapers with kids are probably the best source to see which menu/toolbar configurations work the best.
Aside from the UI, the OLPC would require Inkscape to be slimmed both in terms of memory and disk footprint (including space required by pre-requisite libraries), as I understand it.
Bryce
Also, the other key thing is that sugar is done-up with python. The way abiword handles the writing activity is they implemented a full set of python bindings so that an entirely different and simple UI would just call up abiword...so one might call that abicore ;)
The OLPC ppl. keep ping me about this as a massive missing piece in OLPC...if anyone is interested...bang loudly on my door, er, email inbox...I have two olpcs (the last gen) that go to the two most serious coders with an Inkscape hacking history who can take a crack at Inkscape for olpc...
Then, if those people don't knock something out in a month, then I think we make a social contract to mail them to others who will do the same.
Jon
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Bryce Harrington
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Jon Phillips
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Ocetalo
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Tom Davidson