Hi guys and girls!
Working in Inkscape I've found some inconvenience recently. I often work in Inkscape creating and experimenting with logotypes. I do like this vector application. :)
I migrated to Gentoo a few months ago and didn't have time to deal with Inkscape devel especially of dependencies. So, I use stable version now. If I remember correctly there was available many LPE in dev Inkscape, but they disappeared somewhat. I especially pay attention on envelope, which was very helpful. I'm lack of it. I had to use GIMP to use perspective on shapes, save them to png and then trace them in Inkscape which was a little tricky. I hope guys you restore adequate LPE or some perspective tool for users. :)
Next issue. Sometimes I have to add some nods on a shape in a straigh line (horizontal or vertical - it doesn't matter). So I adjust a guideline and "cut" shape - that is, add nods. I had a short experience in Blender - the 3D application and still remember helpful tool which cuts shape to add nods (velocities? - I don't remember) on it. I think of a thing that it would be useful in Inkscape too. Operating on nods during play with logotypes is really common - so you often move them forward and backward. I don't mind that the tool (let's call it interactive knife) cuts one shape into antother two like difference. I want it to add series of nods on a shape cause adding them by clicking is very tricky. Imagine - Hold [ALT] keys and LMB and move your mouse - such an interactive selection tool could add nods on a shape (outline). See?
I had to use offset or dynamic offstet (excuse me, I don't remember actual name because I use Polish version) just today. I found this feature quite interesting, but in rough use. I needed to enlarge a shape about literraly a few pixels - you know - logo require precission, and found it a little tricky to do it. It would be fantastic to add some numeric fiels for offsets like for width/height. What do you think about it?
Some months ago I told one developer about my idea of eraser improvement. He found it quite interesting. So I repeat it. So could you add default shapes for eraser for instance a circle or a square? The tool uses calligraphy mechanism today. Do you intent to improve it before next release? Eraser is quite interesting tool but is really useless as far the calligraphy philosophy is concerned - you know, utterly useless change of angles while moving/turning. What's your plan for eraser tool?
So, that's all now. I hope I expressed myself clearly and made myself understandable. :)
cheers, Wojciech Ryrych :)
On 04/14/2009 05:26:05 PM, ryrych@...400... wrote:
If I remember correctly there was available many LPE in dev Inkscape, but they disappeared somewhat. I especially pay attention on envelope, which was very helpful. I'm lack of it. I had to use GIMP to use perspective on shapes, save them to png and then trace them in Inkscape which was a little tricky. I hope guys you restore adequate LPE or some perspective tool for users. :)
In order to enable "experimental" LPEs in Inkscape from SVN please remove "#ifdef LPE_ENABLE_TEST_EFFECTS" line and following "#endif" in src/live_effects/effect.cpp file. I remember Johan mentioning that those LPEs were commented out because they are not ready yet and probably will not make it into 0.47, so use them at your own risk... Envelope LPE is too crashy to be usable, perspective path LPE has seen some interesting improvements recently; it's fun to play with, but it might be a bad idea to use it for serious work.
-----Original Message----- From: Jarosław Foksa [mailto:jfoksa@...400...] Sent: dinsdag 14 april 2009 19:20 To: ryrych@...400... Cc: Inkscape dev Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] a few issues
On 04/14/2009 05:26:05 PM, ryrych@...400... wrote:
If I remember correctly there was available many LPE in dev
Inkscape,
but they disappeared somewhat. I especially pay attention
on envelope,
which was very helpful. I'm lack of it. I had to use GIMP to use perspective on shapes, save them to png and then trace them in Inkscape which was a little tricky. I hope guys you restore
adequate
LPE or some perspective tool for users. :)
In order to enable "experimental" LPEs in Inkscape from SVN please remove "#ifdef LPE_ENABLE_TEST_EFFECTS" line and following "#endif" in src/live_effects/effect.cpp file. I remember Johan mentioning that those LPEs were commented out because they are not ready yet and probably will not make it into 0.47, so use them at your own risk... Envelope LPE is too crashy to be usable, perspective path LPE has seen some interesting improvements recently; it's fun to play with, but it might be a bad idea to use it for serious work.
Indeed, I disabled many LPEs, because they lacked usability or good testcases (or were broken). We should really prevent releasing Inkscape with an LPE that we 'have' to change in the future, in order to stay compatible with old versions. The risk of a 'not-so-well-thought-out' LPE is quite a bit higher than normal SVG! (I myself am guilty of making such LPEs).
In any case, it is good to hear that you are missing the Enveloppe LPE. I think that gives people extra motivation for getting the LPE in to 0.47.
Ciao, Johan
Dnia 2009-04-14, o godz. 17:26:05 "ryrych@...400..." <ryrych@...400...> napisał(a):
Next issue. Sometimes I have to add some nods on a shape in a straigh line (horizontal or vertical - it doesn't matter). So I adjust a guideline and "cut" shape - that is, add nods. I had a short experience in Blender - the 3D application and still remember helpful tool which cuts shape to add nods (velocities? - I don't remember) on it. I think of a thing that it would be useful in Inkscape too. Operating on nods during play with logotypes is really common - so you often move them forward and backward. I don't mind that the tool (let's call it interactive knife) cuts one shape into antother two like difference. I want it to add series of nods on a shape cause adding them by clicking is very tricky. Imagine - Hold [ALT] keys and LMB and move your mouse - such an interactive selection tool could add nods on a shape (outline). See?
I had to use offset or dynamic offstet (excuse me, I don't remember actual name because I use Polish version) just today. I found this feature quite interesting, but in rough use. I needed to enlarge a shape about literraly a few pixels - you know - logo require precission, and found it a little tricky to do it. It would be fantastic to add some numeric fiels for offsets like for width/height. What do you think about it?
Some months ago I told one developer about my idea of eraser improvement. He found it quite interesting. So I repeat it. So could you add default shapes for eraser for instance a circle or a square? The tool uses calligraphy mechanism today. Do you intent to improve it before next release? Eraser is quite interesting tool but is really useless as far the calligraphy philosophy is concerned - you know, utterly useless change of angles while moving/turning. What's your plan for eraser tool?
hey guys, I wrote this post more than a week ago and isn't anybody interested in commenting my proposals which make my life easier? Are they so bad? If it is true, please say it clearly, cause I don't want to be igored. :(
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