Re: [Inkscape-devel] "COMPUTERBILD"?
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:19:46AM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 05:56:48PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
I've been emailed by someone from a magazine called "ComputerBild", that is said to be popular in Europe. Could someone confirm for me that it exists?
Yes. It's a spinoff of Bild, a german newspaper with huge headlines and full of gossip. It's very well known and targeted at those who don't know better ;-)
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From the website it looks very Windows focused. Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing. Guess we can use this as an opportunity to do some GPL education. I'll work up a response for this over the weekend.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in doing a translation of what I write to include?
Bryce
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> writes:
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From the website it looks very Windows focused.
It is.
Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing.
Do they want to include a Windows version? I assume so...
Since it's such a "Computers for Dummies" mag, I fear that the "missing extension" dialogs I read about here give a bad impression of Inkscape.
But they really have a big market share, so it might be worth to prepare a version with these quirks polished. Also, the German translation would be worth going over again to make sure it's complete. Depends on how much influence we have on what they put on the CD.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in doing a translation of what I write to include?
Sure.
Cheers, Colin
Cant second this one strongly enough. If its going out to a readership of 4 million novice users, can we please get that extensions dialog set to off by default in the build they distribute? Don't fancy the inevitable tide of "is this broke?" questions. Might be worth checking that inkview is built for the package they get too.
Cheers
John
--- Colin Marquardt <colin@...384...> wrote:
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> writes:
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From
the
website it looks very Windows focused.
It is.
Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing.
Do they want to include a Windows version? I assume so...
Since it's such a "Computers for Dummies" mag, I fear that the "missing extension" dialogs I read about here give a bad impression of Inkscape.
But they really have a big market share, so it might be worth to prepare a version with these quirks polished. Also, the German translation would be worth going over again to make sure it's complete. Depends on how much influence we have on what they put on the CD.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in
doing
a translation of what I write to include?
Sure.
Cheers, Colin
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On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 05:46 -0700, John Cliff wrote:
Cant second this one strongly enough. If its going out to a readership of 4 million novice users, can we please get that extensions dialog set to off by default in the build they distribute? Don't fancy the inevitable tide of "is this broke?" questions. Might be worth checking that inkview is built for the package they get too.
Yeah, I agree. When do they need it by? 0.42..........? No, must finish gtkmm'ification.
Maybe we should do a point release of 0.41, like 0.41.1 with Inkview and the extensions dialog.
Jon
--- Colin Marquardt <colin@...384...> wrote:
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> writes:
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From
the
website it looks very Windows focused.
It is.
Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing.
Do they want to include a Windows version? I assume so...
Since it's such a "Computers for Dummies" mag, I fear that the "missing extension" dialogs I read about here give a bad impression of Inkscape.
But they really have a big market share, so it might be worth to prepare a version with these quirks polished. Also, the German translation would be worth going over again to make sure it's complete. Depends on how much influence we have on what they put on the CD.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in
doing
a translation of what I write to include?
Sure.
Cheers, Colin
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:45:38AM -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 05:46 -0700, John Cliff wrote:
Cant second this one strongly enough. If its going out to a readership of 4 million novice users, can we please get that extensions dialog set to off by default in the build they distribute? Don't fancy the inevitable tide of "is this broke?" questions. Might be worth checking that inkview is built for the package they get too.
Yeah, I agree. When do they need it by? 0.42..........? No, must finish gtkmm'ification.
They didn't give a date but I presume they mean "fairly soon".
Maybe we should do a point release of 0.41, like 0.41.1 with Inkview and the extensions dialog.
Given all this, a point release would probably be a good idea. I know we hate doing that, but it seems to make sense. Certainly, it'd resolve the issue with the extension dialog that we've been battling, and there's nothing unusual about putting out maintenance fixes to stable releases. Anyway, I will let others be the judge of what to do here, but I do agree it'd be a good idea.
Bryce
OK, I will now prepare a patch against 0.41 for this bug and a few other small but important fixes from CVS. John or someone on Windows, you'll have to compile and test it with that patch. Bryce, please hold off sending the file to them until we are ready, OK?
On 4/16/05, John Cliff <simarilius@...36...> wrote:
Cant second this one strongly enough. If its going out to a readership of 4 million novice users, can we please get that extensions dialog set to off by default in the build they distribute? Don't fancy the inevitable tide of "is this broke?" questions. Might be worth checking that inkview is built for the package they get too.
Cheers
John
--- Colin Marquardt <colin@...384...> wrote:
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> writes:
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From
the
website it looks very Windows focused.
It is.
Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing.
Do they want to include a Windows version? I assume so...
Since it's such a "Computers for Dummies" mag, I fear that the "missing extension" dialogs I read about here give a bad impression of Inkscape.
But they really have a big market share, so it might be worth to prepare a version with these quirks polished. Also, the German translation would be worth going over again to make sure it's complete. Depends on how much influence we have on what they put on the CD.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in
doing
a translation of what I write to include?
Sure.
Cheers, Colin
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Sure thing, I will hold off until Monday to send them anything further.
Bryce
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 03:47:58PM -0300, bulia byak wrote:
OK, I will now prepare a patch against 0.41 for this bug and a few other small but important fixes from CVS. John or someone on Windows, you'll have to compile and test it with that patch. Bryce, please hold off sending the file to them until we are ready, OK?
On 4/16/05, John Cliff <simarilius@...36...> wrote:
Cant second this one strongly enough. If its going out to a readership of 4 million novice users, can we please get that extensions dialog set to off by default in the build they distribute? Don't fancy the inevitable tide of "is this broke?" questions. Might be worth checking that inkview is built for the package they get too.
Cheers
John
--- Colin Marquardt <colin@...384...> wrote:
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> writes:
Ah, thanks. Strange, so sort of a PC World type publication. From
the
website it looks very Windows focused.
It is.
Odd that they'd want to include Inkscape, but probably a good thing.
Do they want to include a Windows version? I assume so...
Since it's such a "Computers for Dummies" mag, I fear that the "missing extension" dialogs I read about here give a bad impression of Inkscape.
But they really have a big market share, so it might be worth to prepare a version with these quirks polished. Also, the German translation would be worth going over again to make sure it's complete. Depends on how much influence we have on what they put on the CD.
Are there any fluent German speakers that would like to help me in
doing
a translation of what I write to include?
Sure.
Cheers, Colin
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bulia byak wrote:
OK, I will now prepare a patch against 0.41 for this bug and a few other small but important fixes from CVS. John or someone on Windows, you'll have to compile and test it with that patch. Bryce, please hold off sending the file to them until we are ready, OK?
IIRC, there was a fix for command-line processing that corrected the error output of the extension loading to no longer prohibit use from a bare command-line. That would be good to include.
Oh, and I assume that once the patch is happy-happy, you'll check it in on a branch, right?
Here it is. It fixes the extensions warning, command line export, and resource leaks. Checkout with -r RELEASE_0_41 and apply this patch.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:39:55PM -0300, bulia byak wrote:
Checkout with -r RELEASE_0_41 and apply this patch.
It seems that -r RELEASE_0_41 is still marked as 0.41pre4 in some places (Makefile.mingw.common, inkscape2.nsi, debian/changelog). I don't know how significant those files are, but in any case, checking out with -r RELEASE_0_41_BRANCH corrects all of these cases.
pjrm.
tis 12:20am here and I've got to get up in the morning, but will look at this tomorrow unless bob or someone beats me to it.
cheers
John
--- Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:39:55PM -0300, bulia byak wrote:
Checkout with -r RELEASE_0_41 and apply this patch.
It seems that -r RELEASE_0_41 is still marked as 0.41pre4 in some places (Makefile.mingw.common, inkscape2.nsi, debian/changelog). I don't know how significant those files are, but in any case, checking out with -r RELEASE_0_41_BRANCH corrects all of these cases.
pjrm.
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On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 18:20, Peter Moulder wrote:
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:39:55PM -0300, bulia byak wrote:
Checkout with -r RELEASE_0_41 and apply this patch.
It seems that -r RELEASE_0_41 is still marked as 0.41pre4 in some places (Makefile.mingw.common, inkscape2.nsi, debian/changelog). I don't know how significant those files are, but in any case, checking out with -r RELEASE_0_41_BRANCH corrects all of these cases.
ARGH!
OK, for everyone's reference, this is how the release tagging is SUPPOSED to work (| = branch, ^ = tag):
HEAD -----> | RELEASE_0_41_BRANCH -------> ^ ^ RELEASE_0_41_0 RELEASE_0_41_1 (etc)
NOT:
fixes get made here? whoops... | v HEAD -------------> ^ | RELEASE_0_41 RELEASE_0_41_BRANCH ---->
i.e. one marks the release tag from a working copy that has the branch checked out, not from HEAD.
We have a very carefully documented release process at CreatingDists on the Wiki. Would whoever is doing the release at a particular time PLEASE FOLLOW IT to avoid these sorts of problems?
-mental
bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> writes:
OK, I will now prepare a patch against 0.41 for this bug and a few other small but important fixes from CVS. John or someone on Windows, you'll have to compile and test it with that patch. Bryce, please hold off sending the file to them until we are ready, OK?
BTW, is it possible to also have the installer in German? It was in English for me in the regular 0.41 Windows build.
That "missing extensions" window also was in English, but since that's going away, it doesn't matter.
Cheers, Colin
The tarball, .zip bundle, and NSIS .exe installer are all at:
http://troi.hous.es3.titan.com/inkscape/builds/
They are the 3 files with 'patch' in the name.
They have Colin's de.po fixes, and Bulia's patch.
The .zip can be used to tweak and re-build the NSIS file, if needed.
Enjoy.
Bob
Thanks!
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 06:47:02PM -0500, Bob Jamison wrote:
The tarball, .zip bundle, and NSIS .exe installer are all at:
http://troi.hous.es3.titan.com/inkscape/builds/
They are the 3 files with 'patch' in the name.
They have Colin's de.po fixes, and Bulia's patch.
The .zip can be used to tweak and re-build the NSIS file, if needed.
Enjoy.
Bob
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Bob Jamison
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Bryce Harrington
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bulia byak
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Colin Marquardt
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John Cliff
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Jon A. Cruz
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Jon Phillips
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MenTaLguY
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Peter Moulder