Kees,
I noticed you changed something in ocal import and decided to test it - but as of rev 17362 it does not work. Dialog and search work, previews work, but when I click Open nothing gets inserted into the document.
Hi bulia,
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:16:32AM -0400, bulia byak wrote:
I noticed you changed something in ocal import and decided to test it
- but as of rev 17362 it does not work. Dialog and search work,
previews work, but when I click Open nothing gets inserted into the document.
Hmmm. Is the OCAL import supposed to just do xlinks? That seems weird to me -- it results in importing PNGs and stuff some times. Regardless, I've fixed it up to track the tempfile name now. (I had accidentally overridden the myFilename variable.)
Thanks for catching that!
-Kees
On Feb 17, 2008 1:26 AM, Kees Cook <kees@...62...> wrote:
Hmmm. Is the OCAL import supposed to just do xlinks? That seems weird to me -- it results in importing PNGs and stuff some times. Regardless, I've fixed it up to track the tempfile name now. (I had accidentally overridden the myFilename variable.)
Thanks, now importing works - but no matter what I try I always get bitmaps imported. Is it that OCAL has so many bitmaps (I remember it had mostly vectors), or maybe something's wrong with the import?
Hi,
IMO the OCAL import function catches PNGs because it is by default the first file of an entry and it is used as the thumbnail. As you know OCAL is based on CCHOST which does not have an automatic thumbnail generator from SVG files (OCAL project lacks programmers to create such a feature), so it has been decided that in the meanwhile every uploader will upload a PNG along with the SVG and define the PNG to be the default file for the entry so ot is displayed as a thumbnail on the site.
BUT not all the entries have PNG thumbnails so in these cases the default file is SVG.
Examples: This entry has both PNG (default) http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/7379 This one has not http://openclipart.org/media/files/liftarn/7531 (the only and therefore default file here is SVG)
Also some entries have several version of the SVG (slightly corrected versions of the same file or just elements of a collection). Here are example: http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/3767 and http://openclipart.org/media/files/organick/1597
And in some rare cases, the entry can contain both PNG and SVG but the SVG comes ahead of the PNG and therefore the default file is SVG (these cases are very rare as we always keep an eye on new entries and correct them).
If the OCAL import function catches the first (default) file of an entry, it will in most of the cases catch the PNG thumbnails, not the SVG.
Molumen
----- Original Message ----- From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> To: "Kees Cook" <kees@...62...> Cc: "inkscape-devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ocal import broken
On Feb 17, 2008 1:26 AM, Kees Cook <kees@...62...> wrote:
Hmmm. Is the OCAL import supposed to just do xlinks? That seems weird to me -- it results in importing PNGs and stuff some times. Regardless, I've fixed it up to track the tempfile name now. (I had accidentally overridden the myFilename variable.)
Thanks, now importing works - but no matter what I try I always get bitmaps imported. Is it that OCAL has so many bitmaps (I remember it had mostly vectors), or maybe something's wrong with the import?
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Yes, what about only showing SVG entries from openclipart import in inkscape? I think that would be good...ppl. want the svgs...its ocal's main feature :) If agreeable, could we get that through for the upcoming inkscape release...thx for fixing btw...
Jon
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 16:34 +0100, momo@...1386... wrote:
Hi,
IMO the OCAL import function catches PNGs because it is by default the first file of an entry and it is used as the thumbnail. As you know OCAL is based on CCHOST which does not have an automatic thumbnail generator from SVG files (OCAL project lacks programmers to create such a feature), so it has been decided that in the meanwhile every uploader will upload a PNG along with the SVG and define the PNG to be the default file for the entry so ot is displayed as a thumbnail on the site.
BUT not all the entries have PNG thumbnails so in these cases the default file is SVG.
Examples: This entry has both PNG (default) http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/7379 This one has not http://openclipart.org/media/files/liftarn/7531 (the only and therefore default file here is SVG)
Also some entries have several version of the SVG (slightly corrected versions of the same file or just elements of a collection). Here are example: http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/3767 and http://openclipart.org/media/files/organick/1597
And in some rare cases, the entry can contain both PNG and SVG but the SVG comes ahead of the PNG and therefore the default file is SVG (these cases are very rare as we always keep an eye on new entries and correct them).
If the OCAL import function catches the first (default) file of an entry, it will in most of the cases catch the PNG thumbnails, not the SVG.
Molumen
----- Original Message ----- From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> To: "Kees Cook" <kees@...62...> Cc: "inkscape-devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ocal import broken
On Feb 17, 2008 1:26 AM, Kees Cook <kees@...62...> wrote:
Hmmm. Is the OCAL import supposed to just do xlinks? That seems weird to me -- it results in importing PNGs and stuff some times. Regardless, I've fixed it up to track the tempfile name now. (I had accidentally overridden the myFilename variable.)
Thanks, now importing works - but no matter what I try I always get bitmaps imported. Is it that OCAL has so many bitmaps (I remember it had mostly vectors), or maybe something's wrong with the import?
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Or, better yet, a way to filter filetype searches...ok, that is down the road probably... ;)
Jon
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 00:07 +0800, Jon Phillips wrote:
Yes, what about only showing SVG entries from openclipart import in inkscape? I think that would be good...ppl. want the svgs...its ocal's main feature :) If agreeable, could we get that through for the upcoming inkscape release...thx for fixing btw...
Jon
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 16:34 +0100, momo@...1386... wrote:
Hi,
IMO the OCAL import function catches PNGs because it is by default the first file of an entry and it is used as the thumbnail. As you know OCAL is based on CCHOST which does not have an automatic thumbnail generator from SVG files (OCAL project lacks programmers to create such a feature), so it has been decided that in the meanwhile every uploader will upload a PNG along with the SVG and define the PNG to be the default file for the entry so ot is displayed as a thumbnail on the site.
BUT not all the entries have PNG thumbnails so in these cases the default file is SVG.
Examples: This entry has both PNG (default) http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/7379 This one has not http://openclipart.org/media/files/liftarn/7531 (the only and therefore default file here is SVG)
Also some entries have several version of the SVG (slightly corrected versions of the same file or just elements of a collection). Here are example: http://openclipart.org/media/files/molumen/3767 and http://openclipart.org/media/files/organick/1597
And in some rare cases, the entry can contain both PNG and SVG but the SVG comes ahead of the PNG and therefore the default file is SVG (these cases are very rare as we always keep an eye on new entries and correct them).
If the OCAL import function catches the first (default) file of an entry, it will in most of the cases catch the PNG thumbnails, not the SVG.
Molumen
----- Original Message ----- From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> To: "Kees Cook" <kees@...62...> Cc: "inkscape-devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ocal import broken
On Feb 17, 2008 1:26 AM, Kees Cook <kees@...62...> wrote:
Hmmm. Is the OCAL import supposed to just do xlinks? That seems weird to me -- it results in importing PNGs and stuff some times. Regardless, I've fixed it up to track the tempfile name now. (I had accidentally overridden the myFilename variable.)
Thanks, now importing works - but no matter what I try I always get bitmaps imported. Is it that OCAL has so many bitmaps (I remember it had mostly vectors), or maybe something's wrong with the import?
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On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 AM, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote:
Yes, what about only showing SVG entries from openclipart import in inkscape? I think that would be good...ppl. want the svgs...its ocal's main feature :) If agreeable, could we get that through for the upcoming inkscape release...thx for fixing btw...
Agreed, when both PNG and SVG are available, it must select SVG and ignore the PNG. This is an important issue with one of the headline new features in 0.46, so it must be addressed.
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:51 -0500 schrieb bulia byak:
Agreed, when both PNG and SVG are available, it must select SVG and ignore the PNG. This is an important issue with one of the headline new features in 0.46, so it must be addressed.
a problem that I has the other day are entries like this: http://openclipart.org/media/files/Gerald_G/2593
Where one entry has more then one SVG.
Regards, Tobias
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 19:59 +0100, Tobias Jakobs wrote:
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:51 -0500 schrieb bulia byak:
Agreed, when both PNG and SVG are available, it must select SVG and ignore the PNG. This is an important issue with one of the headline new features in 0.46, so it must be addressed.
a problem that I has the other day are entries like this: http://openclipart.org/media/files/Gerald_G/2593
Where one entry has more then one SVG.
Regards, Tobias
Tobias, can you describe the problem more in Inkscape? Do you not get all the files? Let us know...
Jon
On Feb 18, 2008 7:34 AM, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 19:59 +0100, Tobias Jakobs wrote:
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:51 -0500 schrieb bulia byak:
Agreed, when both PNG and SVG are available, it must select SVG and ignore the PNG. This is an important issue with one of the headline new features in 0.46, so it must be addressed.
a problem that I has the other day are entries like this: http://openclipart.org/media/files/Gerald_G/2593
Where one entry has more then one SVG.
Regards, Tobias
Tobias, can you describe the problem more in Inkscape? Do you not get all the files? Let us know...
I only get the first (PNG) file and can't even see the other files.
Tobias
BTW, is the import from OCAL available on Windows too? I can't find it in 0.46 preview although there is a import/export tab in the preferences referring to that function...
molumen
----- Original Message ----- From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> To: "Jon Phillips" <jon@...235...> Cc: <momo@...1386...>; "inkscape devel list" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ocal import broken
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 AM, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote:
Yes, what about only showing SVG entries from openclipart import in inkscape? I think that would be good...ppl. want the svgs...its ocal's main feature :) If agreeable, could we get that through for the upcoming inkscape release...thx for fixing btw...
Agreed, when both PNG and SVG are available, it must select SVG and ignore the PNG. This is an important issue with one of the headline new features in 0.46, so it must be addressed.
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
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