6:11 a.m.
While the new sliders could be smart they are also annoying when used on some filters like
Gaussian Blur when a wide range of variation is allowed (this is the case for some filters
also suited for high resolution images like for example the new custom filter
"Drawing").
The problem is when you try to click on numerical values because then often the slider
instantly increase up to the highest value (like if you drag it to this value) instead of
giving you precise control on the numerics. And in these cases often if you type Ctrl+Z
before the filter is completely applied Inkscape crashes.
It make working with some nice filters somewhat hasardous and I am sure discouraging for
the beginners in this area.
ivan
7:54 p.m.
Hi Ivan,
Thanks for the feedback ...
While the new sliders could be smart
Any suggestions to make them smarter ?
when you try to click on numerical values because then often the
slider instantly increase up to the highest value
You shouldn’t really need to click
on the numerical values,
* Clicking anywhere on the slider will put the focus to the numerical values.* Mouse wheel
scroll on the slider will also set focus to the numerical values.
* There should be only a few pixels above the numerical values where the slider value
jumps
Any suggestions for improvement more that welcome ...
2:02 a.m.
Thanks for your reply ! And thanks a lot also for your work at squashing bugs !!! :)
In fact when building the filters I tried to manage the most directly useable presets,
even for custom filters. And yes I appreciate a lot using mouse wheel for adjustement (but
I don't remember if wheel adjustment worked on windows) ; that's why I asked to
Jazzynico to make custom filters the most progressive possible, often using floating
point. But on the other hand when I create new filters from existing one or not I would be
able to enter precise numerical values. In some cases if I delicately click or
double-click on numerical values that works, but not always because this area seems to be
very sensitive. There aren't other problems.
ivan
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De : John Smith <john.smith7545@...36...>
À : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...>; Inkscape Devel List
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Envoyé le : Samedi 3 novembre 2012 11h54
Objet : Re: [Inkscape-devel] Something annoying with new sliders and filters
Hi Ivan,
Thanks for the feedback ...
While the new sliders could be smart
Any suggestions to make them smarter ?
when you try to click on numerical values because then often the
slider instantly increase up to the highest value
You shouldn’t really need to click
on the numerical values,
* Clicking anywhere on the slider will put the focus to the numerical values.* Mouse wheel
scroll on the slider will also set focus to the numerical values.
* There should be only a few pixels above the numerical values where the slider value
jumps
Any suggestions for improvement more that welcome ...
3:04 a.m.
Just two cents :
1) would be nice to have the text baseline (for control name and numbers)
aligned on the middle distance between top and bottom inner borders
(on my Mint Maya text top touch the colored area of the slider top border )
2) Probably the numeric input control can be activated just on the right
mouse click over numbers (and deactivated by an outside click or when the
focus is lost ) - this way an overlap of events can be avoided
..not the third coin here - but a suggestion - it would be perfect to have
a visual indicator (..like a color change) when the cursor make the switch
from vertical arrow (normal mode) to horizontal arrows (precision mode) and
the mouse cursor is still over the slider.
as is now, is not very convenient and I observed I have to put a lot of
focus and attention on the slider area ..but with the old slider control
everything was just point and drag
..probably for the peace of mind and commodity a combination of Ctrl + Drag
on the slider will be a better choice for switching to "precision mode" - a
status bar notification can indicate this action when the cursor is over
the slider or when the slider is activated in "normal" mode.
2012/11/4 Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...>
Thanks for your reply ! And thanks a lot also for your work at
squashing
bugs !!! :)
In fact when building the filters I tried to manage the most directly
useable presets, even for custom filters. And yes I appreciate a lot using
mouse wheel for adjustement (but I don't remember if wheel adjustment
worked on windows) ; that's why I asked to Jazzynico to make custom filters
the most progressive possible, often using floating point. But on the other
hand when I create new filters from existing one or not I would be able to
enter precise numerical values. In some cases if I delicately click or
double-click on numerical values that works, but not always because this
area seems to be very sensitive. There aren't other problems.
ivan
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*De :* John Smith <john.smith7545@...36...>
*À :* Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...>; Inkscape Devel List <
inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>
*Envoyé le :* Samedi 3 novembre 2012 11h54
*Objet :* Re: [Inkscape-devel] Something annoying with new sliders and
filters
Hi Ivan,
Thanks for the feedback ...
> While the new sliders could be smart
Any suggestions to make them smarter ?
> when you try to click on numerical values because then often the slider
instantly increase up to the highest value
You shouldn’t really need to click on the numerical values,
* Clicking anywhere on the slider will put the focus to the numerical
values.
* Mouse wheel scroll on the slider will also set focus to the numerical
values.
* There should be only a few pixels above the numerical values where the
slider value jumps
Any suggestions for improvement more that welcome ...
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