Exposing low-level errors to user?
Hi,
should we expose low-level errors such as this example here to users?:
#: ../src/jabber_whiteboard/message-utilities.cpp:168 msgid "" "ID for new object is NULL even after generation and lookup attempts: the new " "object will NOT be sent, nor will any of its child objects!"
I don't think the intended audience can make any use of this. If this is just meant for debugging, then please don't mark it as translatable.
Also, there are some string like this:
"<span weight="bold" size="larger"><b>%1</b> has invited you to a " "whiteboard session.</span>\n"
Please split the string so that only the part inside the <span></span> is marked up translatable, i.e. "<b>%1</b> has invited you to a "whiteboard session."
In the name of the poor translators :), Colin
There's a ridiculous amount of debug output in the Inkboard code, some of which I marked up as translatable (for some reason that I can't remember), and it should be removed really, really soon. I'll get to it before release. Like, say, now...
-- David
Colin Marquardt wrote:
Hi,
should we expose low-level errors such as this example here to users?:
#: ../src/jabber_whiteboard/message-utilities.cpp:168 msgid "" "ID for new object is NULL even after generation and lookup attempts: the new " "object will NOT be sent, nor will any of its child objects!"
I don't think the intended audience can make any use of this. If this is just meant for debugging, then please don't mark it as translatable.
David Yip <yipdw@...635...> writes:
There's a ridiculous amount of debug output in the Inkboard code, some of which I marked up as translatable (for some reason that I can't remember), and it should be removed really, really soon. I'll get to it before release. Like, say, now...
Cool, thanks very much for the quick action.
Cheers, Colin
On 9/14/05, Colin Marquardt <colin@...384...> wrote:
My opinion:
#: ../src/jabber_whiteboard/message-utilities.cpp:168 msgid "" "ID for new object is NULL even after generation and lookup attempts: the new " "object will NOT be sent, nor will any of its child objects!"
Certainly not for the user to see. This _may_ be output to the console if you really need it, but (1) mark it not translatable, and (2) make sure it really is an error which happens very unfrequently.
Also:
"Node %p (name %s) is a special node, but it could not be found in the node " "tracker (possible unexpected duplicate?) Generating unique ID anyway." "Could not read next message due to charset conversion error (error: %s)!" "Caught I/O exception (error string: %s) while committing change to session " "file %s. Attempting to commit remaining changes; session file will be " "inconsistent with whiteboard session history." "Caught character set conversion error (error string: %s) while committing " "change to session file %s. Attempting to commit remaining changes; session " "file will be inconsistent with whiteboard session history." msgid "Cannot operate on NULL SessionFile." "Caught I/O error %s while attemping to open file %s for session recording."
-- same as above, I think these all are technical descriptions not for the user. Console only, untranslatable.
"Accepting the invitation in the active document will cause your current " "changes to be lost"
-- what is "current changes"? Changes since last save? Or the entire document content? This is not clear.
"A new desktop could not be opened"
-- "desktop" is our coders jargon, it's not for the user. The user knows these things as "document windows".
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 05:06 pm, bulia byak wrote:
Certainly not for the user to see. This _may_ be output to the console if you really need it, but (1) mark it not translatable, and (2) make sure it really is an error which happens very unfrequently.
Marked as untranslatable in CVS.
-- same as above, I think these all are technical descriptions not for the user. Console only, untranslatable.
Same as above.
"Accepting the invitation in the active document will cause your current " "changes to be lost"
-- what is "current changes"? Changes since last save? Or the entire document content? This is not clear.
I've changed that to
You have made changes in the active document window; accepting %1's invitation will cause these changes to be lost. Would you like to accept the invitation in the active document window, or would you like to open a new document window for the whiteboard session?
I'm not really sure this is the best way it could be worded -- it's quite verbose...
"A new desktop could not be opened"
-- "desktop" is our coders jargon, it's not for the user. The user knows these things as "document windows".
Changed from "desktop" to "document window" in CVS.
-- David
Quoting David Yip <yipdw@...635...>:
You have made changes in the active document window; accepting %1's invitation will cause these changes to be lost. Would you like to accept the invitation in the active document window, or would you like to open a new document window for the whiteboard session?
I'm not really sure this is the best way it could be worded -- it's quite verbose...
Perhaps:
*Would you like to accept %1's invitation in a new document window?*
Accepting the invitation in your current window will discard unsaved changes.
[ accept in current ] [ decline ] [ new document ]
bulia? thoughts?
-mental
On 9/14/05, mental@...3... <mental@...3...> wrote:
*Would you like to accept %1's invitation in a new document window?*
Accepting the invitation in your current window will discard unsaved changes.
[ accept in current ] [ decline ] [ new document ]
Sounds OK to me, except I'd make the last button [ accept in new ] or [ accept in new document ]
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 08:05 pm, bulia byak wrote:
On 9/14/05, mental@...3... <mental@...3...> wrote:
*Would you like to accept %1's invitation in a new document window?*
Accepting the invitation in your current window will discard unsaved changes.
[ accept in current ] [ decline ] [ new document ]
Sounds OK to me, except I'd make the last button [ accept in new ] or [ accept in new document ]
Changes committed to CVS. The dialog box now looks like
%1 has invited you to a whiteboard session.
Would you like to accept %1's invitation in a new document window? Accepting the invitation in your current window will discard unsaved changes.
[ Accept invitation ] [Decline invitation] [Accept invitation in new document window ]
-- David
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