Hi Martin,

Are there any further actions needed?

If nobody disagrees, I will do the following (probably next weekend):

1. set Launchpad to "Bugs are tracked: somewhere else".

2. check for broken Launchpad URLs on https://inkscape.org/develop/bug-management/ https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/blob/master/Guidelines.md https://alpha.inkscape.org/bug-migration/ and fix where required.

Best Regards,

Max

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Sat, 2021-02-20 at 18:36 +0100, Maximilian Gaukler wrote:

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Hi all,

every once in a while, people still report bugs on the old bug tracker on launchpad.net. Currently, the bug tracker was left open so that we can still read old bugs and move them over to GitLab. With some help from Launchpad.net support https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/695519 I figured out that we can disable bug submission there without losing access to the old bugs:

https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+configure-bugtracker -> Setting: Bugs are tracked: "somewhere else".

I tried that temporarily for a few seconds, and it seems to work:

Then, the main links "Bugs" and "Report a bug" on Launchpad disappear. However, one can still search for bugs using the direct link to the "advanced search": https://bugs.launchpad.net/~inkscape.bugs/+bugs?advanced=1 Links to old bugs still work, e.g.: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/682585

Hi Max,

this is great! The only reason we never considered setting "Bugs are tracked: somewhere else" was that everybody assumed they would become inaccessible by that.

Before we go on (it's usually better to wait for people from the actual bug team to answer, e.g. Nathan or Jonathan; Martin has a tendency of being overhasty and taking action prematurely 🙄):

* You referenced https://bugs.launchpad.net/~inkscape.bugs/+bugs?advanced=1 This does not seem to be the proper link however. These are the bugs (a single bug really) of the bug team are they not? * The likely proper URL https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bugs?advanced=1 is invalidated by flipping the preference (just tested)

Am I missing something?

Cheers Patrick

Am 21.02.2021 um 10:53 schrieb Maximilian Gaukler:

Hi Martin,

...

Are there any further actions needed?

If nobody disagrees, I will do the following (probably next weekend):

1. set Launchpad to "Bugs are tracked: somewhere else".

2. check for broken Launchpad URLs on

https://inkscape.org/develop/bug-management/ https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/blob/master/Guidelines.md https://alpha.inkscape.org/bug-migration/ and fix where required.

Best Regards,

Max

...

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Sat, 2021-02-20 at 18:36 +0100, Maximilian Gaukler wrote:

...

Hi all,

every once in a while, people still report bugs on the old bug tracker on launchpad.net. Currently, the bug tracker was left open so that we can still read old bugs and move them over to GitLab. With some help from Launchpad.net support https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/695519 I figured out that we can disable bug submission there without losing access to the old bugs:

https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+configure-bugtracker -> Setting: Bugs are tracked: "somewhere else".

I tried that temporarily for a few seconds, and it seems to work:

Then, the main links "Bugs" and "Report a bug" on Launchpad disappear. However, one can still search for bugs using the direct link to the "advanced search": https://bugs.launchpad.net/~inkscape.bugs/+bugs?advanced=1 Links to old bugs still work, e.g.: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/682585

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OK, too bad...

I've not received any mails yet (Launchpad is a bit delayed at times, though). However I don't think I've ever received any mails for people subscribing to my bugs.

The idea you have seems sound, if

* we get put together the script to do this and don't run into Launchpad API issues like rate-limiting and the like (I've heard of those in the past but have no first-hand knowledge) * we think the few bugs filed improperly are worth the effort to go through with this. (For me personally the answer is "no"; I'd just keep the old tracker as-is until we either complete the migration or decide to declare it as completed at which point we can flick the switch without further thought).

Cheers, Patrick

Am 21.02.2021 um 15:49 schrieb Maximilian Gaukler:

Hi Patrick,

...

* The likely proper URL      https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bugs?advanced=1 is invalidated      by flipping the preference (just tested)

yes, unfortunately you are right, but at the same time you helped me find a work-around:

• Create a team "Old inkscape bugs"
• Subscribe that team to all bugs via some script (Note this will

generate one email to the team per bug!)

• Use the "bug team" link like this (example with 5 subscribed bugs)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/~testytesty

I also subscribed my test team to two of your bugs. You should hopefully *not* have received an email about that.

Best

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More likely https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/bug_migration ? I'll drop a note...

It's a bit representative for the complicated situation we put ourselves in:

* Mailing lists (in theory) still being the official way to announce important changes across the project but being used less and less * Rocket chat with more and more teams/channels spawning but no consistent way to know about all of them (I didn't even know #team_testing existed).

On the upside I just saw someone finally cleared out the directory (https://chat.inkscape.org/directory/channels) - seems three times the charm (that's how often I bugged everybody about this). ;-)

I still wonder whether we should not try to encourage people to continue using the mailing lists more. Information in chat is volatile. On the other hand people also don't seem to be interested on reading up past discussions in many cases, so maybe that's just the doom of "modern" communication we have to face.

Cheers Patrick

Am 21.02.2021 um 19:42 schrieb doctormo@gmail.com:

I don't think the testing team is going to see these emails here.

A notice should be supplied to #team_testing on chat.inkscape.org for a proper feedback.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Sun, 2021-02-21 at 16:47 +0100, Patrick Storz wrote:

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OK, too bad...

I've not received any mails yet (Launchpad is a bit delayed at times, though). However I don't think I've ever received any mails for people subscribing to my bugs.

The idea you have seems sound, if

we get put together the script to do this and don't run into Launchpad API issues like rate-limiting and the like (I've heard of those in the past but have no first-hand knowledge) we think the few bugs filed improperly are worth the effort to go through with this. (For me personally the answer is "no"; I'd just keep the old tracker as-is until we either complete the migration or decide to declare it as completed at which point we can flick the switch without further thought). Cheers, Patrick

Am 21.02.2021 um 15:49 schrieb Maximilian Gaukler:

...

Hi Patrick,

...

• The likely proper URL https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bugs?advanced=1 is

invalidated

...

 by flipping the preference (just tested)

yes, unfortunately you are right, but at the same time you helped me find a work-around:

• Create a team "Old inkscape bugs"
• Subscribe that team to all bugs via some script (Note this will

generate one email to the team per bug!)

• Use the "bug team" link like this (example with 5 subscribed

bugs) https://bugs.launchpad.net/~testytesty

I also subscribed my test team to two of your bugs. You should hopefully *not* have received an email about that.

Best

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