Re: Win98 Support sopped -or so (FW: (gtk) bug and win98)
Hello all,
according this bug that bulia mentionen I wrote to the gtk mailing list and got so far 1 answer through the mailing list.
Pls. read that they state Win98 as a "obsolte os where apperantly no developer is interested anymore." I dont know wether this is the voice of the whole gtk devel group or yust this one person.
So what is our plan ?
Adib. -----Original Message----- From: Hans Breuer [mailto:hans@...1020...] Sent: Mon 10/3/2005 23:40 To: Taraben, Adib Cc: GTK Devel List Subject: Re: (gtk) bug and win98
On 03.10.2005 22:44, Adib Taraben wrote:
Hello gtk-team,
Inkscape is a SVG vector graphics editor that uses gtk and gtkmm. Currently with the 2.8 libs there is a problem starting on win98. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316878
Is it possible from you guys to investigate in this bug and find out wether it is a real gtk bug or not?
No need to investigate. Cairo - which gtk+-2.8 depends on - is known not to work on win32. This is due to using only the unicode APIs for win32 font access. This API does not work on win9x.
Inkscape will release a new version the next weeks and it would be good (I think) to ship the win32 version with gtk 2.8. Gtk 2.6 is known to work also on win98.
If they are *really* interested in win9x support patches to http://cvs.cairographics.org/cairo/src/cairo-win32-font.c would probably be accepted. Though there may as well be other issues with running gtk+ on an obsolte os where apperantly no developer is interested anymore.
Hans
-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org ----------- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it. -- Dilbert
Taraben, Adib wrote:
Hello all,
according this bug that bulia mentionen I wrote to the gtk mailing list and got so far 1 answer through the mailing list.
Pls. read that they state Win98 as a "obsolte os where apperantly no developer is interested anymore." I dont know wether this is the voice of the whole gtk devel group or yust this one person.
It sounds about the same as the arguments made by Tor Lillqvist when stopped supporting GIMP for Win9x (one or two years ago), but I believe he also added "buggy"
So what is our plan ?
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 10:22:33AM +0200, Taraben, Adib wrote:
Hello all,
according this bug that bulia mentionen I wrote to the gtk mailing list and got so far 1 answer through the mailing list.
Pls. read that they state Win98 as a "obsolte os where apperantly no developer is interested anymore." I dont know wether this is the voice of the whole gtk devel group or yust this one person.
So what is our plan ?
Thanks for doing this research Adib, this really helps narrow things down.
If this is correct, the issue is not with gtk itself, but rather with cairo. This is quite interesting given our own interest in eventually moving to cairo.
What you should do next is repeat your question to the cairo developers. Re-explain the issue and mention the desire for win98 support. Ask if they already have made plans for this, or if not, what would be required to achieve it. Mention that there are users quite interested in having Win98 support, and point them at this mail thread.
Bryce
Adib. -----Original Message----- From: Hans Breuer [mailto:hans@...1020...] Sent: Mon 10/3/2005 23:40 To: Taraben, Adib Cc: GTK Devel List Subject: Re: (gtk) bug and win98
On 03.10.2005 22:44, Adib Taraben wrote:
Hello gtk-team,
Inkscape is a SVG vector graphics editor that uses gtk and gtkmm. Currently with the 2.8 libs there is a problem starting on win98. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316878
Is it possible from you guys to investigate in this bug and find out wether it is a real gtk bug or not?
No need to investigate. Cairo - which gtk+-2.8 depends on - is known not to work on win32. This is due to using only the unicode APIs for win32 font access. This API does not work on win9x.
Inkscape will release a new version the next weeks and it would be good (I think) to ship the win32 version with gtk 2.8. Gtk 2.6 is known to work also on win98.
If they are *really* interested in win9x support patches to http://cvs.cairographics.org/cairo/src/cairo-win32-font.c would probably be accepted. Though there may as well be other issues with running gtk+ on an obsolte os where apperantly no developer is interested anymore.
Hans
-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org ----------- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it. -- Dilbert
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Bryce Harrington
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Nicu Buculei
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Taraben, Adib