Yes, here's a developers response about the system and general testing requirements (anyone got a spare kid? Jon Cruz?) ;)
Jon
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From: James Cameron <quozl@...1662...> To: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> Cc: devel@...1312... <devel@...1312...>, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> Subject: Re: Inkscape and OLPC Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:14:34 +1100
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:04:20PM +0000, Jon Phillips wrote:
I'm not so familiar with all the drawing capabilities for the device yet, but seems like an Inkscape-like app would be excellent (but possibly too complicated). Our canvas is great ;)
There is a mouse touchpad. There will be a drawing or writing touchpad either side. There are two mouse buttons, left and right. The screen is 1200x900 pixels, 200DPI, colour or monochrome, and windows take up the whole screen usually.
If you have a spare 5 to 9 year old, sit them in front of Inkscape and ask them to do something. You'll rapidly learn what they need. I've only used Inkscape for half an hour, so I'm not able to comment on it.
I've tried a B-test-1 laptop unit with build 239 and Tux Paint on a two year old. That seemed to work well. "yum install tuxpaint".
Jon,
I've got a friend that I just got switched to Linux a few weeks ago and he uses Inkscape... and has a 5 year old daughter. :)
The machine is also a bit slow, so probably a closer experience to what the OLPC would be like than a modern desktop.
I've got SCALE this weekend so I can't go observe. But, when I'm back I'd be more than willing to sit with her and see what she can do. How much interaction should there be with me (in terms of assistance)?
Honestly, if their touchpad is like my laptop's, Inkscape is not too fun. :(
-Josh
Jon Phillips wrote:
Yes, here's a developers response about the system and general testing requirements (anyone got a spare kid? Jon Cruz?) ;)
Jon
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From: James Cameron <quozl@...1662...> To: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> Cc: devel@...1312... <devel@...1312...>, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> Subject: Re: Inkscape and OLPC Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:14:34 +1100
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:04:20PM +0000, Jon Phillips wrote:
I'm not so familiar with all the drawing capabilities for the device yet, but seems like an Inkscape-like app would be excellent (but possibly too complicated). Our canvas is great ;)
There is a mouse touchpad. There will be a drawing or writing touchpad either side. There are two mouse buttons, left and right. The screen is 1200x900 pixels, 200DPI, colour or monochrome, and windows take up the whole screen usually.
If you have a spare 5 to 9 year old, sit them in front of Inkscape and ask them to do something. You'll rapidly learn what they need. I've only used Inkscape for half an hour, so I'm not able to comment on it.
I've tried a B-test-1 laptop unit with build 239 and Tux Paint on a two year old. That seemed to work well. "yum install tuxpaint".
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 16:47 -0700, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
Jon,
I've got a friend that I just got switched to Linux a few weeks ago and he uses Inkscape... and has a 5 year old daughter. :)
The machine is also a bit slow, so probably a closer experience to what the OLPC would be like than a modern desktop.
I've got SCALE this weekend so I can't go observe. But, when I'm back I'd be more than willing to sit with her and see what she can do. How much interaction should there be with me (in terms of assistance)?
Honestly, if their touchpad is like my laptop's, Inkscape is not too fun. :(
-Josh
Oh cool, that is good to know...it would be great to get a test with a kid, but first, I think best to try and get it all running...good to know though!
Sounds like Inkscape already builds on sugar, but really needs some tweaks...refactoring/optimizations will really help I think in shrinking our binaries...
Jon
Jon Phillips wrote:
Yes, here's a developers response about the system and general testing requirements (anyone got a spare kid? Jon Cruz?) ;)
Jon
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From: James Cameron <quozl@...1662...> To: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> Cc: devel@...1312... <devel@...1312...>, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> Subject: Re: Inkscape and OLPC Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:14:34 +1100
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:04:20PM +0000, Jon Phillips wrote:
I'm not so familiar with all the drawing capabilities for the device yet, but seems like an Inkscape-like app would be excellent (but possibly too complicated). Our canvas is great ;)
There is a mouse touchpad. There will be a drawing or writing touchpad either side. There are two mouse buttons, left and right. The screen is 1200x900 pixels, 200DPI, colour or monochrome, and windows take up the whole screen usually.
If you have a spare 5 to 9 year old, sit them in front of Inkscape and ask them to do something. You'll rapidly learn what they need. I've only used Inkscape for half an hour, so I'm not able to comment on it.
I've tried a B-test-1 laptop unit with build 239 and Tux Paint on a two year old. That seemed to work well. "yum install tuxpaint".
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I've a 7 years old kid that is already used to tux's things (tuxpaint, tuxracer ...). Why not testing that.
Their UI guideline seems to be quite short, especially i had a look at icons there is a lot to do. I don't know if there is a need to redraw all the icons or just switch tangos to their color theme ? In this case, i could have time to do it one day ;).
pygmee
cedric GEMY <radar.map35@...8...> writes:
Their UI guideline seems to be quite short, especially i had a look at icons there is a lot to do. I don't know if there is a need to redraw all the icons or just switch tangos to their color theme ? In this case, i could have time to do it one day ;).
Speaking of icons... wasn't there a plan to switch Inkscape to the icon-naming-spec at some point? Should that be put into the roadmap?
Cheers Colin
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:22:31PM +0100, Colin Marquardt wrote:
cedric GEMY <radar.map35@...8...> writes:
Their UI guideline seems to be quite short, especially i had a look at icons there is a lot to do. I don't know if there is a need to redraw all the icons or just switch tangos to their color theme ? In this case, i could have time to do it one day ;).
Speaking of icons... wasn't there a plan to switch Inkscape to the icon-naming-spec at some point? Should that be put into the roadmap?
Cheers Colin
Please add this to the roadmap, along with a link to point to the relevant reference.
Put it in for the 0.51 release for now; if someone feels ambitious and wants to work on it, we can always move it up sooner.
Bryce
Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> writes:
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:22:31PM +0100, Colin Marquardt wrote:
Speaking of icons... wasn't there a plan to switch Inkscape to the icon-naming-spec at some point? Should that be put into the roadmap?
Put it in for the 0.51 release for now; if someone feels ambitious and wants to work on it, we can always move it up sooner.
Ok, done.
Cheers Colin
cedric GEMY wrote:
I've a 7 years old kid that is already used to tux's things (tuxpaint, tuxracer ...). Why not testing that.
Their UI guideline seems to be quite short, especially i had a look at icons there is a lot to do. I don't know if there is a need to redraw all the icons or just switch tangos to their color theme ? In this case, i could have time to do it one day ;).
pygmee
I think the guidelines are awesome, not so much about wording and specific spacing, but rather how you should think when designing stuff for the platform. Regarding icons, I think it's good that they are that way, because of the specific hardware and the way that the interface is going to be used under (stong sunlight perhaps?). The Tango style guidelines are made with more of a normal computer desktop in mind. - Andreas
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Joshua A. Andler