Style Dialog Design [UI]
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
[1]: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Style_Editor
Cool, we'll get right on it. Thanks!
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal <grewalkamal005@...400...> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
-- Kamalpreet Kaur Grewal Blog: http://kamalpreetgrewal.com/
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On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 09:59 +0100, C R wrote:
Cool, we'll get right on it. Thanks!
Excellent Part of the discussion should be how this dialog fits into the grand scheme of things. Should it be a separate dialog? Should it be merged into a combined Layers/Objects dialog. Should it replace the Selection Sets dialog? (Being able to select using classes should remove the need for selection sets.) Tav
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal > <grewalkamal005@...400...>> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be
added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by
Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style
Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface
team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave
when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
--
Kamalpreet Kaur Grewal
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Part of the discussion should be how this dialog fits into the grand scheme of things. Should it be a separate dialog? Should it be merged into a combined Layers/Objects dialog. Should it replace the Selection Sets dialog? (Being able to select using classes should remove the need for selection sets.)
Absolutely. I'm playing with a variety of ideas today and tomorrow.
Thanks for doing the preliminary mockups, Tav!
-C
Tav
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal < grewalkamal005@...400...> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
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Hi everyone. As promised, I have done some preliminary UI analysis.
Unfortunately, the inkscape gallery seems to be badly broken at this point: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9548/UI_flow_diagram.svg
So if, like me, you can not download the svg from that location to view it properly, go here: http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.svg
Note that it contains flowed text which is meant to preserve editability and translatability of the original.
... yea, maybe it would be good to include a .png export just for a quick look, so here that is too:
http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.png
Let me know any thoughts. :)
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 11:07 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Part of the discussion should be how this dialog fits into the grand
scheme of things. Should it be a separate dialog? Should it be merged into a combined Layers/Objects dialog. Should it replace the Selection Sets dialog? (Being able to select using classes should remove the need for selection sets.)
Absolutely. I'm playing with a variety of ideas today and tomorrow.
Thanks for doing the preliminary mockups, Tav!
-C
Tav
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal < grewalkamal005@...400...> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
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These links work:
Download: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9549/UI_flow_diagram_plain_svg.svg
Description page: https://inkscape.org/en/~C.Rogers/%E2%98%85ui-flow-diagram-for-style-and-css...
Kind regards, Maren
Am 02.05.2016 um 19:43 schrieb C R:
Hi everyone. As promised, I have done some preliminary UI analysis.
Unfortunately, the inkscape gallery seems to be badly broken at this point: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9548/UI_flow_diagram.svg
So if, like me, you can not download the svg from that location to view it properly, go here: http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.svg
Note that it contains flowed text which is meant to preserve editability and translatability of the original.
... yea, maybe it would be good to include a .png export just for a quick look, so here that is too:
http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.png
Let me know any thoughts. :)
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 11:07 AM, C R <cajhne@...400... mailto:cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Part of the discussion should be how this dialog fits into the grand scheme of things. Should it be a separate dialog? Should it be merged into a combined Layers/Objects dialog. Should it replace the Selection Sets dialog? (Being able to select using classes should remove the need for selection sets.) Absolutely. I'm playing with a variety of ideas today and tomorrow. Thanks for doing the preliminary mockups, Tav! -C Tav
-C On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal <grewalkamal005@...400... <mailto:grewalkamal005@...400...>> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'. We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it? Any modifications in the design are most welcome. [1]: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Style_Editor -- Kamalpreet Kaur Grewal Blog: http://kamalpreetgrewal.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 18:43 +0100, C R wrote:
Hi everyone. As promised, I have done some preliminary UI analysis.
Unfortunately, the inkscape gallery seems to be badly broken at this point: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9548/UI_flow_diagram.svg
The link is:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9549/UI_flow_diagram_plain_svg.svg
The file you uploaded must have been called that, but you can also link directly to:
https://inkscape.org/en/~C.Rogers/%E2%98%85ui-flow-diagram-for-style-an d-css-dialogs
It's a bit small though.
No thoughts on actual design atm. Website mode, please report brokenness to website administrator before struggling to post links to the mailing list :-)
Martin Owens
Okay then. Lol -C On 2 May 2016 6:58 pm, "Martin Owens" <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 18:43 +0100, C R wrote:
Hi everyone. As promised, I have done some preliminary UI analysis.
Unfortunately, the inkscape gallery seems to be badly broken at this point: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9548/UI_flow_diagram.svg
The link is:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9549/UI_flow_diagram_plain_svg.svg
The file you uploaded must have been called that, but you can also link directly to:
https://inkscape.org/en/~C.Rogers/%E2%98%85ui-flow-diagram-for-style-an d-css-dialogs
It's a bit small though.
No thoughts on actual design atm. Website mode, please report brokenness to website administrator before struggling to post links to the mailing list :-)
Martin Owens
Questions from diagram:
1. How does the CSS Dialog show inline styles vs. selector styles?
Maybe by using normal vs. italics? One thing that could be interesting is to show where the style comes from if inherited (as the browser inspectors due). I'm not sure how this would fit in.
2. If an object is selected, "Attribute" inline CSS editing could be enabled automatically.
I'm not sure you would always want this. But then it might be the most appropriate behavior since selecting an object or objects cannot select a single selector as there is not necessarily a one-to-one mapping.
3. If a CSS selector is selected, editing could automatically be set to "Sheet".
This is probably the desired behavior.
I do think we would still need the two buttons (Sheet and Attribute).
4. Can simply clicking on a new selector with objects already selected on-canvas replace the '+'?
I don't think so. You need to be able to define the type of selector (class, id, element type, etc.).
5. Can we use [Del] and ctrl-X to replace the (x).
I think these are fine keyboard shortcuts but I would still keep the (x).
On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 18:43 +0100, C R wrote:
Hi everyone. As promised, I have done some preliminary UI analysis.
Unfortunately, the inkscape gallery seems to be badly broken at this point: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/9548/UI_flow_diagram.svg
So if, like me, you can not download the svg from that location to view it properly, go here: http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.svg
Note that it contains flowed text which is meant to preserve editability and translatability of the original.
... yea, maybe it would be good to include a .png export just for a quick look, so here that is too:
http://www.whitecatgraphics.com/inkscape/UI_flow_diagram.png
Let me know any thoughts. :)
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 11:07 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Part of the discussion should be how this dialog fits into the grand scheme of things. Should it be a separate dialog? Should it be merged into a combined Layers/Objects dialog. Should it replace the Selection Sets dialog? (Being able to select using classes should remove the need for selection sets.)
Absolutely. I'm playing with a variety of ideas today and tomorrow.
Thanks for doing the preliminary mockups, Tav!
-C
Tav
-C
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Kamalpreet Grewal <grewalkamal0 05@...400...> wrote:
Talking about CSS support in Inkscape, a style dialog box will be added during GSoC this year. A design has already been proposed by Tavmjong at [1]. Some discussions have been done in thread 'Style Dialog'.
We need a review of the design for the style dialog from the interface team. Which options should be available in it? How it should behave when a user interacts with it?
Any modifications in the design are most welcome.
-- Kamalpreet Kaur Grewal Blog: http://kamalpreetgrewal.com/
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Kamalpreet Grewal
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Martin Owens
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