Fwd: Bevel LPE (and others) discussion
Steren:
Can't all this be done with Filter Effects ?
Yes but filters are really hard to use and don't have any intuitive way of editing on canvas. Fortunately, most of the people I heard talking about this agree.
LPE are for paths, what you propose is more for style. And the filter effects are here to dynamicaly modify the style. I'm used to the LPE code, and your ideas require a total rewrite of the actual LPE system.
Understood. I misunderstood LPE's purpose.
Did you have a look to the "Drop Shadow" pre made filter effect ? (Effects>Filter> Drop shadow and Object > Filter Effect to see how it's made).
I would agree that the Filter Effects UI is too technical and that a UI for some pre-made filter could be great for a better control.
I tried that pre-made filter and for drop-shadows something like that is what i was looking for.The problem is that currently, filters are hard to edit and a tool serving as front end would be much better. I think the same would apply for the rest of proposed "LPEs". Your thoughts?
Johan:
I thought up a solution that unfortunately does not work:
- clone original path and apply LPE to the clone
- adjust the style of the clone to whatever you want.
I checked but unfortunately this does not work, because the original path's style overrides the clones' style :(
A filter would avoid the need for clones/copies. So i think is the way to go.
Aside from this, I have added some examples of the results I would like to see for BEVEL tool (i won't call it LPE anymore): http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SpecBevelLPE As you see, is not something doable with LPEs because style of the bevel has to be editable and not inherited from the object. In this case filters doesn't seem to achieve this although some of the pre-made filters give a "3D", relief or emboss effect but not like my mockup. I actually think the emboss tool could be made with filters.
In some way, the bevel tool would be like the 3d box tool: both create a group editable with the tool, or you can edit the elements of the group sepparately if you ungroup it.
Regards.
PS: Steren, sorry for sending you this message twice.
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