Hi, and sorry for the late reply.

I just wanted to say that I like the first, longer version better. The reason is that probably the people who take the time to read it are newbies and maybe even newbies to the internet. I'm afraid the abbreviated comments in the new version are too abbreviated.

Especially "Don't ask to ask". No one new to the internet will have any idea what that means. I would probably think it means -- don't ask just for the sake of asking, or in other words, have a reason for asking. And of course that's ridiculous and I wouldn't understand, so I would ignore it. And probably the first thing I would do is "ask to ask".

So the older version, which explains what each "rule" means, seems more helpful to me.

Hhmm....well I was going to give it a 2nd read, but I can't seem to open it this time. Well, as soon as I can get it open again, I'll give it another read through.

All best, brynn

-------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Owens" <doctormo@...400...> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 1:14 AM To: "inkscape-devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: "inkscape-user" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Web Chat Review

Dear Users and Developers,

I've put together an integrated tutorial for the irc chat on inkscape.org and I'd like a few users and support contributors to give it a review:

https://inkscape.org/en/*users/chat/

You should see a few things are different now:

• You must be logged in to use the chat, previously you could be

anonymous. You even must have an email configured, so facebook and twitter logins must update their user profile before chatting.

• There is the above guide which add the can_irc permission to a user's

account. Confirming they've seen every page (I shorted it to 4 pages).

• There's a new IRC bot that offers these new commands:

• webbot: whois [username] ; will tell you who a user is and a link to

their website profile, in case someone joins the chat asks a question and then leaves without waiting.

• webbot: tell [username] [msg] ; will send an alert to the user with

a possible response. The default for website message alerts is to email them too. So you can respond to someone who just left.

• Get Latest Art ; a bit of fun to return the latest item in the

Artwork category on the live site. Returns the link.

• If you want further integrations between irc and the website, this

is now possible. (maybe good for meetings in the future)

I'm hoping these tools will allow users to feel comfortable chatting with us and also provision support contributors with what they need when in chat.

The exact text of the above tutorial is up for review here. Please let me know your suggestions by email on list.

Thanks everyone!

Best Regards, Martin Owens

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