Hi Rodney, If you want to register at: https://teams.freecreatives.org and find the public channel "Vectors - macOS" you'll see what has happened thus far and where things have stalled. We need to find a better home for this discussion in the official GitLab project, but for the time being that's the best place to get started. Thanks for getting involved! Ryan On 04/29/2018 02:11 PM, Rodney Little wrote:

I completely agree for all the reasons you've stated that the mailing list is the best place for these discussions to happen. What I've heard of mailman, it sounds like it will make discussion on the mailing list more discoverable and easier to contribute to, which I think is a step in the right direction. Ryan On 04/30/2018 09:01 AM, Eduard Braun wrote:

Hi all. I feel good in IRC because languaje and think we beed select the bugtraker wath give less work to mantain, live is short. About Gitlab, is cool but is developer oriented. I think we need a more social solution that vectors or feed all vector activity to a social platform. Best regards from Sevilla, smiles ;) -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> To: Eduard Braun <eduard.braun2@...173...>, Ryan Gorley <ryan@...3592...>, Rodney Little <rodney@...3650...>, inkscape-devel@...838... ourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Communications, Was: Inkscape on Mac Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:49:00 -0400 Hi Eduard, This is an important discussion to have. For me it's a question of coherence, context and convenience. The three Cs. Coherence is a factor of how well the platform integrates with the whole community and how well cross breeding of ideas can happen. Context is mostly important for developers, it's about how close the conversation is to the code (for designers, it's about how close it is to the graphics etc, etc) and convenience is the factor of how easily accessible the platform is to ALL of the people who need to have a voice in the discussion. Some trade-off examples for us to consider; increasing convenience by using mattermost decreases coherence and context for developer questions like MacOSX packaging. Using GitLab improves context but may harm coherence if people are put off or if there are multiple subprojects, such as putting packaging in their own subprojects. IRC actually has the least context, coherence and convenience of any platform we're on. It's okish for support, and we've been running meetings there for a long time, but it's got a lot of holes which I believe may be worth demoting it as a blessed developer discussion platform. Launchpad for issues tracking was robbed of it's pro-context when we moved to GitLab and it's now negative in all three factors. So we really should move away from it except perhaps for issues relating to Ubuntu packaging, which may still be useful if a bit decoherant. We're at a point in the project where I think these questions are not settled and there can be no fixed line about how the project /is/ run. But this discussion is important to have so I hope we can spark the discussion here. Where do you think we should talk? Best Regards, Martin Owens On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 17:01 +0200, Eduard Braun wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel