
I noticed from 0.39 on the pivotpoint (the cross that on which an object rotates, i think it's called pivot) is hidden in scale mode, so only visible in rotate mode. I find it quite usefull in scale mode too, (ie. while overlaying images you move the point to a place you want to keep, then scale so the whole image is as you wish). What is the reason it hides? And can it perhaps be turned into an option?
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I noticed from 0.39 on the pivotpoint (the cross that on which an object rotates, i think it's called pivot) is hidden in scale mode, so only visible in rotate mode. What is the reason it hides?
The main reason is that it gets in the way of dragging object. Before it was hidden, dragging small objects was very hard - you always ended up dragging the pivot instead of the object itself.
And can it perhaps be turned into an option?
Maybe, but is it really so much of a problem to do a couple more clicks to go to rotate mode and then back? To me, the use case you describe seems too uncommon, and the workaround seems too easy, to justify adding an option.

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, bulia byak wrote:
I noticed from 0.39 on the pivotpoint (the cross that on which an object rotates, i think it's called pivot) is hidden in scale mode, so only visible in rotate mode. What is the reason it hides?
The main reason is that it gets in the way of dragging object. Before it was hidden, dragging small objects was very hard - you always ended up dragging the pivot instead of the object itself.
Ah cool! That's a mis-feature I reported back in the Sodipodi days, but no change was made. Very glad to see it fixed, it used to always screw me up when moving small objects.
And can it perhaps be turned into an option?
Maybe, but is it really so much of a problem to do a couple more clicks to go to rotate mode and then back? To me, the use case you describe seems too uncommon, and the workaround seems too easy, to justify adding an option.
Lauris had some additional points for why to keep it, although I've forgotten them. The thread is probably available in the Sodipodi list archives. I agree that it really doesn't need to be there for translation mode, though.
Bryce

Lauris had some additional points for why to keep it, although I've forgotten them. The thread is probably available in the Sodipodi list archives. I agree that it really doesn't need to be there for translation mode, though.
Shouldn't resizing while holding Shift pressed have the pivot point as center? Therefore shouldn't pressing Shift make it show up?
David

David Christian Berg wrote:
Lauris had some additional points for why to keep it, although I've forgotten them. The thread is probably available in the Sodipodi list archives. I agree that it really doesn't need to be there for translation mode, though.
Shouldn't resizing while holding Shift pressed have the pivot point as center? Therefore shouldn't pressing Shift make it show up?
David
Sounds like a good feature to me, there's no function connected to shift click/drag on pivot point, so move pivot point should be connected to it.
For the small objects moving issue, another solution would be to hide the pivot point if the object is smaller than a few (10 a 15) pixels, maybe that is too inconsequent, but it may be quite intuitive.
Another issue with moving small object is the upperleft point on each selected object (does it have a name?). What is it usable for? clicking or dragging doesn't do anything. Maybe it is a good idea to connect move object to dragging that point. Now a very small object is unmovable when it's hidden by that point.
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Bryce Harrington
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