My previous query was somehow sidetracked, so here it is again:
- Can anyone give rationale for "Print colors preview" being in Display modes? If not I will remove it from there, as I explained it looks very out of place next to Outline and No filters.
Also:
- We also have "Color-managed view" in the same menu. Duplicate? If they are genuinely different, please name them to better reflect this difference, and place both in an appropriate submenu of View. Otherwise, merge them.
And:
- We again have two Input Devices commands. Can we finally decide one way or the other? Does the new one fully work? If so delete the old one, otherwise hide the new until it is ready.
Thanks!
On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:57 PM, bulia byak wrote:
- We again have two Input Devices commands. Can we finally decide one
way or the other? Does the new one fully work? If so delete the old one, otherwise hide the new until it is ready.
We have two at the moment because things are in transition.
The new one does not yet have all the needed functionality, but the old one is using GTK features that are being deprecated and removed.
On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:57 PM, bulia byak wrote:
My previous query was somehow sidetracked, so here it is again:
- Can anyone give rationale for "Print colors preview" being in
Display modes? If not I will remove it from there, as I explained it looks very out of place next to Outline and No filters.
I was going to say that we need to get that out right away, but then I realized there are some possible uses. The initial intent seems to be to allow for an artist to get precise control over what they are doing for print work.
We really need to get some use cases in on this. However, since the implementation has gone in using what are probably the wrong approaches for the internals, we might benefit most by disabling/removing that until we can be sure we're addressing things the safe way for the mid to long term.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Jon Cruz <jon@...18...> wrote:
I was going to say that we need to get that out right away, but then I realized there are some possible uses. The initial intent seems to be to allow for an artist to get precise control over what they are doing for print work.
Can we please hear from the initial committer of this? Maybe we're missing something?
We really need to get some use cases in on this. However, since the implementation has gone in using what are probably the wrong approaches for the internals, we might benefit most by disabling/removing that until we can be sure we're addressing things the safe way for the mid to long term.
Do you think we can move the useful functionality from this into the "color-managed view" command or dialog?
On 1/17/10, bulia byak wrote:
We really need to get some use cases in on this. However, since the implementation has gone in using what are probably the wrong approaches for the internals, we might benefit most by disabling/removing that until we can be sure we're addressing things the safe way for the mid to long term.
Do you think we can move the useful functionality from this into the "color-managed view" command or dialog?
May I please point out again that "color-managed view" should be a checkbox in menu?
Alexandre
On Jan 18, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On 1/17/10, bulia byak wrote:
We really need to get some use cases in on this. However, since the implementation has gone in using what are probably the wrong approaches for the internals, we might benefit most by disabling/removing that until we can be sure we're addressing things the safe way for the mid to long term.
Do you think we can move the useful functionality from this into the "color-managed view" command or dialog?
May I please point out again that "color-managed view" should be a checkbox in menu?
Yes, you may. Do you have a bug entered for that?
Yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/183956
Alexandre
On 1/17/10, Jon Cruz <jon@...18...> wrote:
On Jan 18, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On 1/17/10, bulia byak wrote:
We really need to get some use cases in on this. However, since the implementation has gone in using what are probably the wrong approaches for the internals, we might benefit most by disabling/removing that until we can be sure we're addressing things the safe way for the mid to long term.
Do you think we can move the useful functionality from this into the "color-managed view" command or dialog?
May I please point out again that "color-managed view" should be a checkbox in menu?
Yes, you may. Do you have a bug entered for that?
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On 01/17/2010 03:25 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
May I please point out again that "color-managed view" should be a checkbox in menu?
We don't have any checkboxes in the menus yet, or do we? This would be a first, so if someone implements this I'd gladly copy the code for the snapping toggle ;-). I briefly looked into this before but somehow got discouraged.
Diederik
2010/1/17 Diederik van Lierop <mail@...1689...>:
We don't have any checkboxes in the menus yet, or do we? This would be a first, so if someone implements this I'd gladly copy the code for the snapping toggle ;-). I briefly looked into this before but somehow got discouraged.
There are checkboxes in the show/hide menu. I think they might be implemented using InkToggleAction.
Regards, Krzysztof
On 01/17/2010 08:14 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
There are checkboxes in the show/hide menu. I think they might be implemented using InkToggleAction.
Regards, Krzysztof
Yes, you're correct, but thinks are slowly coming back to me now: these are only toggled using the menu itself; IIRC I had troubles getting the checkbox updated for some reason when it was triggered via a shortcut key, or something like that. Should be quite straightforward though to implement for someone who knows what he's doing ;-).
In this bug report a checkbox is asked for: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/219086
Diederik
On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:34 AM, bulia byak wrote:
Do you think we can move the useful functionality from this into the "color-managed view" command or dialog?
At the moment I don't think so.
They are really two separate items. Color managed view should be usable, and used, by any even semi-serious person. This especially includes web artists. The print separation items are a pre-press workflow step that would be used in addition to base management when someone is trying to do very precise work for print. Note that this does not include all people going to professional print houses for output.
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