:)

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 17:43 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:

Jabier,

I hope it's your latest work rather than last :)

Looks good!

Alex

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Thanks to you for the feedback and patiece on develop stage.

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 16:29 +0100, C R escribió:

Awesome work! I look forward to using this in my product design work. It will make measurement and re-measurement a breeze! Thanks again!

-C

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:)

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 17:43 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:

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Jabier,

I hope it's your latest work rather than last :)

Looks good!

Alex

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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+1 :-)

Le Jeudi 28 juillet 2016 18h17, C R <cajhne@...400...> a écrit :

Not a problem at all Jabier! Working with you is always a pleasure. :) On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:

Thanks to you for the feedback and patiece on develop stage.

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 16:29 +0100, C R escribió:

Awesome work! I look forward to using this in my product design work. It will make measurement and re-measurement a breeze! Thanks again!

-C

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:)

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 17:43 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:

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Jabier,

I hope it's your latest work rather than last :)

Looks good!

Alex

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Thanks for the feedback Martin!

El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 17:05 -0400, Martin Owens escribió:

This is great!

I was just last week struggling to create these labels for my house plan. So useful!

Martin,

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Great! I think I could implement:

* Vertical and horizontal measure, cool!

* Optional line delimiters

* Option to use units but not display it

* Add arrows automaticaly to measure in svg:defs, at this point I have some question: ¿There is a Standar way to it?  DIN arrows seems similar in both extensions, How to scale it? relative to line width or size is fixed by spec?

* maybe I could do a optional angle measure

I hope the LPE not become too complex, maybe also add a collapsable to all not DIN related measure things.

Thanks for the feedback.

El vie, 29-07-2016 a las 14:55 +1200, Mark Schafer escribió:

That's very cool.

Look at this extension which implements a DIN style dimension.

• it correctly uses the svg:defs to hold the arrow description for

reuse.

• has lines at the ends for delimiters.
• https://github.com/Rutzmoser/inkscape_dimensioning

I've been developing one for arcs also.(not up yet) Currently it looks to me like the best way is to develop it into a  'dimensionable' class on top of inkex.effect. This way it'll be useful for anyone who wants to dimension an object  easily. They can just swap out inkex.effect for inkex.dimensionable

E.g. check out the conus which uses it manually inserted      - https://inkscape.org/en/~quirxi/%E2%98%85sheet-metal-cone+0

Ideally we'd like to get it into the distribution proper... Perhaps  Jabier you can use these ideas to extend yours. ?

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Thanks so much Mark!

El sáb, 30-07-2016 a las 12:18 +1200, Mark Schafer escribió:

The DIN size is standard and fixed.

Maybe other styles could be added. but DIN is that specific arrow in  that size.(so is line width)

On 7/29/2016 8:51 PM, Jabier Arraiza wrote:

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Great! I think I could implement:

• Vertical and horizontal measure, cool!

• Optional line delimiters

• Option to use units but not display it

• Add arrows automaticaly to measure in svg:defs, at this point I

have some question: ¿There is a Standar way to it? DIN arrows seems similar in both extensions, How to scale it?  relative to line width or size is fixed by spec?

• maybe I could do a optional angle measure

I hope the LPE not become too complex, maybe also add a collapsable to all not DIN related measure things.

Thanks for the feedback.

El vie, 29-07-2016 a las 14:55 +1200, Mark Schafer escribió:

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That's very cool.

Look at this extension which implements a DIN style dimension.

• it correctly uses the svg:defs to hold the arrow description

for reuse.

• has lines at the ends for delimiters.
• https://github.com/Rutzmoser/inkscape_dimensioning

I've been developing one for arcs also.(not up yet) Currently it looks to me like the best way is to develop it into a 'dimensionable' class on top of inkex.effect. This way it'll be useful for anyone who wants to dimension an object easily. They can just swap out inkex.effect for inkex.dimensionable

E.g. check out the conus which uses it manually inserted       - https://inkscape.org/en/~quirxi/%E2%98%85sheet-metal-cone +0

Ideally we'd like to get it into the distribution proper... Perhaps Jabier you can use these ideas to extend yours. ?

On 7/29/2016 2:29 AM, Jabier Arraiza wrote:

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Hi Tobias thanks for your imput, my english is not so good, culd you fill the selected "table"?

Line Group 0.7 "Maßshilfslinien" 0.35 "Lines" 0.5 "Arrows" Extension are OK "Font" OSI

El sáb, 30-07-2016 a las 11:00 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus escribió:

Am Samstag, 30. Juli 2016, 12:18:20 CEST schrieb Mark Schafer:

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The DIN size is standard and fixed.

Maybe other styles could be added. but DIN is that specific arrow in that size.(so is line width)

Well, that depends on the line group which depends on the paper size. And it  seems you are using the wrong line widths, at least according to DIN 15 which  states that for line group 0.7 (which you seem to use) the measuring lines  have to be 0.35 wide. Your extension uses 0.5 for the "Maßshilfslinien" (no  idea about the English term) and .75 for the actual line with the arrows  instead. Would it be possible to fix that, and maybe add a selector for the  line group (0.5 or 0.7)? And maybe even a way to set the font used, I prefer  OSI for that.

That being said, thank you so much for a nicely working DIN measuring tool! I  can finally stop drawing all these lines manually. :-)

Tobias

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On 7/29/2016 8:51 PM, Jabier Arraiza wrote:

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Great! I think I could implement:

• Vertical and horizontal measure, cool!

• Optional line delimiters

• Option to use units but not display it

• Add arrows automaticaly to measure in svg:defs, at this point I

have some question: ¿There is a Standar way to it? DIN arrows seems similar in both extensions, How to scale it?  relative to line width or size is fixed by spec?

• maybe I could do a optional angle measure

I hope the LPE not become too complex, maybe also add a collapsable to all not DIN related measure things.

Thanks for the feedback.

El vie, 29-07-2016 a las 14:55 +1200, Mark Schafer escribió:

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That's very cool.

Look at this extension which implements a DIN style dimension.

• it correctly uses the svg:defs to hold the arrow description

for reuse.

• has lines at the ends for delimiters.
• https://github.com/Rutzmoser/inkscape_dimensioning

I've been developing one for arcs also.(not up yet) Currently it looks to me like the best way is to develop it into a 'dimensionable' class on top of inkex.effect. This way it'll be useful for anyone who wants to dimension an object easily. They can just swap out inkex.effect for inkex.dimensionable

E.g. check out the conus which uses it manually inserted

- https://inkscape.org/en/~quirxi/%E2%98%85sheet-metal-co ne+0

Ideally we'd like to get it into the distribution proper... Perhaps Jabier you can use these ideas to extend yours. ?

On 7/29/2016 2:29 AM, Jabier Arraiza wrote:

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Hi to all.

Following a CR idea, I done my last work. I hope you like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqVu_SWeMU

All the best, Jabier.

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Am Samstag, 30. Juli 2016, 11:34:59 CEST schrieb Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz:

Sorry the mail sended prematurely.

Hi Tobias thanks for your imput, my english is not so good, culd you fill the selected "table"?

Sure, no problem.

In every line group there are 3 line widths. The thick one is used for the general drawing, so it's not relevant for this extension. The thin lines are used for the dimension lines, extension lines and similar. The medium lines are only used for some symbols and for text. So in theory that would be of interest for the numbers printed, however, as we are most likely using regular text it can be ignored.

(Of course there are more cases where lines are drawn, but that's beyond the scope of the explanation).

That leaves us with only one line width per line group which is needed for the whole extension, namely the thin ones.

For line group 0.7 everything should be drawn with 0.35 mm wide lines, for line group 0.5 it is 0.25 mm.

In case anyone is curious, the thick lines are 0.7 mm and 0.5 mm. The medium ones are 0.5 mm and 0.35 mm. But as I said, none of those should be used for dimensionings according to DIN 15 / DIN ISO 128.

Some examples can be seen here:

http://www.maelabs.ucsd.edu/mae_guides/cad/dimensioning/ dimensioning_fundementals.htm

Line Group 0.7 "Maßshilfslinien" 0.35

Yes.

"Lines" 0.5

No, 0.35, too. At least for the dimensioning lines.

"Arrows" Extension are OK "Font" OSI Line Group 0.5 "Maßshilfslinien" ? "Lines" ?

0.25

"Arro ws" Extension are OK "Font" OSI

OSI font is a nice plus, I presonally use

https://github.com/hikikomori82/osifont

More Line Groups?

No, 0.7 and 0.5 is all that is needed.

Thanks in advance.

You are welcome. I am looking forward to the final LPE!

Tobias

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Thanks Tobias! Im finishing the LPE now. Thanks so mush for the info, I use it for the LPE.

Cheers, Jabier.

El dom, 31-07-2016 a las 13:15 +1200, Mark Schafer escribió:

Great info Tobias, thanks. I will feed it back to the original extension author. I've also started an arc dimensioning tool. It will use same info.

On 7/31/2016 4:00 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

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Am Samstag, 30. Juli 2016, 11:34:59 CEST schrieb Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz:

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Sorry the mail sended prematurely.

Hi Tobias thanks for your imput, my english is not so good, culd you fill the selected "table"?

Sure, no problem.

In every line group there are 3 line widths. The thick one is used for the  general drawing, so it's not relevant for this extension. The thin lines are  used for the dimension lines, extension lines and similar. The medium lines  are only used for some symbols and for text. So in theory that would be of  interest for the numbers printed, however, as we are most likely using regular  text it can be ignored.

(Of course there are more cases where lines are drawn, but that's beyond the  scope of the explanation).

That leaves us with only one line width per line group which is needed for the  whole extension, namely the thin ones.

For line group 0.7 everything should be drawn with 0.35 mm wide lines, for  line group 0.5 it is 0.25 mm.

In case anyone is curious, the thick lines are 0.7 mm and 0.5 mm. The medium  ones are 0.5 mm and 0.35 mm. But as I said, none of those should be used for  dimensionings according to DIN 15 / DIN ISO 128.

Some examples can be seen here:

http://www.maelabs.ucsd.edu/mae_guides/cad/dimensioning/ dimensioning_fundementals.htm

...

Line Group 0.7 "Maßshilfslinien" 0.35

Yes.

...

"Lines" 0.5

No, 0.35, too. At least for the dimensioning lines.

...

"Arrows" Extension are OK "Font" OSI Line Group 0.5 "Maßshilfslinien" ? "Lines" ?

0.25

...

"Arro ws" Extension are OK "Font" OSI

OSI font is a nice plus, I presonally use

https://github.com/hikikomori82/osifont

...

More Line Groups?

No, 0.7 and 0.5 is all that is needed.

...

Thanks in advance.

You are welcome. I am looking forward to the final LPE!

Tobias

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