Selecting objects in tweak context
Hi,
in tweak context it is not possible to select objects by simply clicking on them. When looking into this I realized that this seems to be intentional since clicking on something does perform a light change (at least, that's what the code and the additional entry in the undo history suggest).
However, in my (very decent, admittedly) applications of the tweak tool I have never seen a case where this small change was actually visible. And imho not being able to click-select something is such a major deviation from the usual/expected behaviour that it should be considered enabling this in the tweak tool, too - at the expense of losing the hardly useful "do a light change" option (which can otherwise be achieved by reducing the force parameter). What do people think?
Max
On Jan 11, 2008 8:56 AM, Maximilian Albert <Anhalter42@...173...> wrote:
However, in my (very decent, admittedly) applications of the tweak tool I have never seen a case where this small change was actually visible. And imho not being able to click-select something is such a major deviation from the usual/expected behaviour that it should be considered enabling this in the tweak tool, too - at the expense of losing the hardly useful "do a light change" option (which can otherwise be achieved by reducing the force parameter). What do people think?
Actually there are quite a few other tools where clicking does what this tool does, not selecting - calligraphy, pen, pencil, paintbucket. Admittedly these tools are different in that they all create new objects, not edit the existing ones. However, the concept of clicking to select is not really universal, still.
The problem with clicking in the tweak tool is that most modes do not use drag. Actually only the push mode requires that you drag to give it a direction; all other modes will work - and are quite useful - if you just click and hold in one point without moving the mouse at all. How are you going to tell a select click from a tweak click in this case?
bulia byak schrieb:
On Jan 11, 2008 8:56 AM, Maximilian Albert <Anhalter42@...173...> wrote:
However, in my (very decent, admittedly) applications of the tweak tool I have never seen a case where this small change was actually visible. And imho not being able to click-select something is such a major deviation from the usual/expected behaviour that it should be considered enabling this in the tweak tool, too - at the expense of losing the hardly useful "do a light change" option (which can otherwise be achieved by reducing the force parameter). What do people think?
Actually there are quite a few other tools where clicking does what this tool does, not selecting - calligraphy, pen, pencil, paintbucket. Admittedly these tools are different in that they all create new objects, not edit the existing ones. However, the concept of clicking to select is not really universal, still.
Admitted.
The problem with clicking in the tweak tool is that most modes do not use drag. Actually only the push mode requires that you drag to give it a direction; all other modes will work - and are quite useful - if you just click and hold in one point without moving the mouse at all.
Strange. I can't seem to make *any* tweak tool work without moving the mouse, even if I keep the button pressed for a long time. What am I doing wrong?
However, I believe that this is precisely what made me think the tweak tool is different from the other ones. It didn't even occur to me that the pen/pencil/paintbucket tool should select something when clicking because clicking has an immediate _visible_ effect (namely, it creates a new line or fills an area).
The calligraphy (now that you mentioned it) and tweak tools seem different in this respect. So I believe either the effect they have should be immediately apparent to the user, or in case there is no such effect (as seems to be the case for the calligraphy tool; please correct me if I'm wrong again), clicking should result in selecting objects.
Max
On Jan 11, 2008 6:34 PM, Maximilian Albert <Anhalter42@...173...> wrote:
Strange. I can't seem to make *any* tweak tool work without moving the mouse, even if I keep the button pressed for a long time. What am I doing wrong?
It does not depend on time. It depends on the number of clicks. Just click several times and you will see it will be slowly affected (the slowness is intentional, it's for minute adjustments).
Does anyone else find these click tweaks useful?
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