Re: [Inkscape-user] Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal for inkscape-testers
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:38 -0700, frank gaude' wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
[...] Anyway, it's too bad that the three responses so far have not been supportive to the idea. I feel very strongly that this change would benefit Inkscape, just as adopting a bug tracker helped stability, establishing open development processes helped usability, and establishing a release process helped installability. Am I the only person that thinks we could benefit from an organized testing community?
It seems to me, and I've been around computers since 1970 and using Linux since 1996, that testing software independent of developers, programmers and coders is fundamental to the process. As Linux gets more mature we should see more of that. Each package should have, in my opinion, a set of testers using a wide variety of hardware and distros to find and point out problems.
Linux as a whole needs more structure to guide its progress if it is ever to be a player on the desktop, versus Apple and Microsoft. The whole thing right now reminds me of what was happening in the early '80s. Unix had a good chance of being a desktop player but for the unbelievable problems of getting everyone to pull in the same direction. Enough said about that.
Let's have a testing group with its mail list.
While my initial reaction is to be conservative on the creation of more infrastructure, I think you have a great idea Bryce. Also, I think that it is no skin off the rest of the developers' collective backs for you to set this up and drive it.
Testing is very important, and even if this list is not that active, a focus around this subject will really help the project.
I think also that a testing list would help encourage people to transition from user, to tester, to developer...enabling this type of transition is so necessary in OSS.
Go for it!
Jon
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Quoting Jon Phillips <jon@...235...>:
Testing is very important, and even if this list is not that active, a focus around this subject will really help the project.
Yes, agreed. I think we would benefit from having an inkscape-testing list as a point of focus.
Realize, however, that simply having a point to focus on will not automatically give us focus. We'll need to think about some additional concrete steps to go with the creation of the list.
-mental
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:22:25PM -0400, mental@...3... wrote:
Quoting Jon Phillips <jon@...235...>:
Testing is very important, and even if this list is not that active, a focus around this subject will really help the project.
Yes, agreed. I think we would benefit from having an inkscape-testing list as a point of focus.
Okay, I've gone ahead and created the list.
Realize, however, that simply having a point to focus on will not automatically give us focus. We'll need to think about some additional concrete steps to go with the creation of the list.
Agreed. I think this will be a long term effort to get organized, but I'm sure we can do it. I have some ideas, but do you have some suggestions in mind?
Bryce
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:18 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:22:25PM -0400, mental@...3... wrote:
Quoting Jon Phillips <jon@...235...>:
Testing is very important, and even if this list is not that active, a focus around this subject will really help the project.
Yes, agreed. I think we would benefit from having an inkscape-testing list as a point of focus.
Okay, I've gone ahead and created the list.
Realize, however, that simply having a point to focus on will not automatically give us focus. We'll need to think about some additional concrete steps to go with the creation of the list.
Agreed. I think this will be a long term effort to get organized, but I'm sure we can do it. I have some ideas, but do you have some suggestions in mind?
I think as long as the list just has the daily build report it is already a success. It could be an ambient test feed until there is more community involvement :)
Jon
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