Key In: Shortcut references from Macromedia Fireworks
Before my trial version of Macromedia Fireworks expired I exported HTML pages for the various keybinding sets it supported (with the unfortunately exception of Photoshop) and then today I hastily munged them together into one great big table for comparison purposes. (Kevin Wixon seems to have access to Illustrator so I'd appreciate any comments he might have.)
The link is temporary and I may move it or the information contained within to somewhere else more suitable so if the information is of interest please save a copy. http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/shortcuts/keys.html
Essentially I think it could be quite useful to identify the basic keybindings the various applications have in common. I should warn that I think I see at least one error in the list and as these were all generated from Fireworks what it claims are the Illustrator keybindings may not be entirely accurate (I dont recally Illustrator having a menu item for "Insert Hotspot" for example). I'm amused to see differences even between Fireworks and Freehand. It might also be worth noting some of the items they do not give keybindings to so when we next try to find a suitable keybinding we will have some idea of which items are not really important enough to need keybindings.
Here are some other menu references I have mentioned before but lost track of. will try and find time to put in the wiki this time but if anyone is willing to help (and even remind me occasionally to try and do it) I'd appreciate it. I think my notes are a little too messy to directly cut and paste into the Wiki.
Top level menus only of various applications: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/menus.txt Adobe Illustrator 7.0 for Mac OS menus (keybindings not included): http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/illustrator-menus.txt Freehand MX keybindings: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/freehand/FreeHandMX_keybindings.tx...
All this keybinding lark has gotten me side tracked from coming up with a proposal on the menu reorganistion, sorry about that.
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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On 8/5/05, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
The link is temporary and I may move it or the information contained within to somewhere else more suitable so if the information is of interest please save a copy. http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/shortcuts/keys.html
Why don't you move it to our wiki? It's a very useful table indeed, and I'd like to have it in a permanent location and editable by all.
I'm amused to see differences even between Fireworks and Freehand.
Heh, I hope now you better understand my reaction when I hear a "make it exacly like in Illustrator" rant. If the well-known and well-respected programs such as Macromedia's ones do differ from Illustrator and from each other so much, why can't we, if we have a good reason for that?
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:06:36 -0300 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Inkscape is a vector graphics editor inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Key In: Shortcut references from Macromedia Fireworks
On 8/5/05, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
The link is temporary and I may move it or the information contained within to somewhere else more suitable so if the information is of interest please save a copy. http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/shortcuts/keys.html
Why don't you move it to our wiki?
I plan to. I'm fishing for help.
More accurate or up to date infromation would be a bonus.
It's a very useful table indeed, and I'd like to have it in a permanent location and editable by all.
The HTML formatting I slapped together to get the table is a bit ugly and trying to edit it in Wiki would be torture. I'm not sure how to format it in a way that would be more managable (perhaps transferring it to a spreadsheet and back out again would be a good way to flatten the nested tables but it was already taking far too long to get this far).
I'm amused to see differences even between Fireworks and Freehand.
Heh, I hope now you better understand my reaction when I hear a "make it exacly like in Illustrator" rant.
Sometimes people to that because what they really want is to get you to make it *more like Illustrator* ;)
If the well-known and well-respected programs such as Macromedia's ones do differ from Illustrator and from each other so much, why can't we, if we have a good reason for that?
So conversely do you agree it is all the more important to share the keybindings they all have in common? (Select Invert Ctrl+Shift+I is stuck in my mind, I'm not convinced Import merits a keybinding at all.)
Sincerely
Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
On Aug 5, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Alan Horkan wrote:
The HTML formatting I slapped together to get the table is a bit ugly and trying to edit it in Wiki would be torture. I'm not sure how to format it in a way that would be more managable (perhaps transferring it to a spreadsheet and back out again would be a good way to flatten the nested tables but it was already taking far too long to get this far).
Why, just knock it about and munge it into some actual custom XML. Then it will be easy to create HTML via XSLT or whatever.
:-)
It also makes things more maintainable.
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