[Fwd: Your Exclusive Invitation to LinuxWorld ’s .Org Pavilion]
I don't know which one of my involvements this person wanted involvement from, so I'm emailing all of my involvements to see if there is any interest in setting up a booth at LinuxWorld in San Francisco or Boston this year.
LinuxWorld is mainly targeting Open Source business and not Open Source developers like Desktopcon/Ottawa Linux Symposium.
Ping me back if there is interest in setting up a presence...
Jon
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From: Alison_Dwelley@...1203... To: jon@...235... Subject: Your Exclusive Invitation to LinuxWorld ’s .Org Pavilion Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:30:45 -0500
Dear Jon,
It is my pleasure to inform you that your organization has been chosen for this year’s .Org Pavilion at the LinuxWorld Conference & Expo. This invitation is for BOTH shows – Boston, April 3-6 and San Francisco August 14-17, 2006. Please RSVP by March 10, 2006 to this email or contact me via email at Alison_dwelley@...1204... If you can only make one event please let me know at this time so that we can make arrangements for another organization to take that place.
The .org Pavilion is an exciting opportunity for .orgs to reach out to the free software and open source communities during LinuxWorld Conference & Expo. We are happy to provide this opportunity for you to be recognized for all of your hard work in support of these communities.If you are interested in participating please fax back the contract(s) to 508-620-6690and we will send you additional information.
We are very excited to have you be a part of our 2006 .Org pavilion and look forward to seeing you at both the Boston and San Francisco LinuxWorld events. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me at 508-424-4834 or via email at Alison_dwelley@...1204...
Kind Regards,
Alison Dwelley
Alison Dwelley Sales Operations Coordinator IDG World Expo Direct: 508-424-4834 Fax: 508-620-6690 alison_dwelley@...1203... http://www.idgworldexpo.com
I doubt I can attend, and I'm not familiar with LinuxWorld (i.e. who attends and what they'd be interested in from Inkscape, or how Inkscape can benefit from people who attend), but here are a few ideas of things of what to draw attention to or not:
One thing we might be able to offer the business
- SVG for small devices (mobile phones, PDAs). We currently don't have particularly good support for SVG Tiny, but maybe some business at LinuxWorld might want to sponsor improvement in this area as the cheapest path to getting an editor for SVG Tiny.
- Shared whiteboard collaboration.
- Creation of business documents that are more googlable (or accessible from whatever desktop search technology) than many alternatives.
Perhaps the important point here (from a money-making perspective) is that SVG might be googlable (not sure), whereas I believe flash is not googlable. (This belief based partly on flash's secretive nature, and partly on one flash-only web-site that I couldn't find matches for in google; though I'm not certain that the site was in google at all.) It doesn't matter whether SVG has reached Flash's market penetration yet or not: SVG can be just one alternative in a cascade.
- Conceivably just as general illustration program or flowcharting / diagramming tool. But what's the benefit of inkscape over OOo Draw or Visio etc. ? SVG support is the main thing that stands out from http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/OpenDraw. (Plus the graph layout stuff, though I'd guess that Dia or Visio are still better than Inkscape for most graph drawing; though I think both can export to SVG.)
Any other ideas of what should or shouldn't get prominent display in the booth?
pjrm.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 11:35:16PM +1100, Peter Moulder wrote:
I doubt I can attend, and I'm not familiar with LinuxWorld (i.e. who attends and what they'd be interested in from Inkscape, or how Inkscape can benefit from people who attend).
I didn't go to it last year, but I've been to two or three of them. LinuxWorld is a lot more "booth" oriented than other conferences; this is because you can get in to see the booths for a LOT less than it costs to go to the talks.
The show floor is mostly set aside for companies, but there is also a "dot org pavillion" in the back for all the open source projects. Actually the dot org ghetto is much more interesting than the company booths.
At the San Francisco LWE, the audiences for the booths tended to be pretty heavily just technical users, with a slightly higher mix of biz folks than at other conferences, so my guess is that the same types of things that worked well at SCALE would work well at LWE.
One thing we might be able to offer the business
SVG for small devices (mobile phones, PDAs). We currently don't have particularly good support for SVG Tiny, but maybe some business at LinuxWorld might want to sponsor improvement in this area as the cheapest path to getting an editor for SVG Tiny.
Shared whiteboard collaboration.
From what I've heard from people I've talked to at other conferences,
this above item is probably going to be the most popular.
Creation of business documents that are more googlable (or accessible from whatever desktop search technology) than many alternatives.
Perhaps the important point here (from a money-making perspective) is that SVG might be googlable (not sure), whereas I believe flash is not googlable. (This belief based partly on flash's secretive nature, and partly on one flash-only web-site that I couldn't find matches for in google; though I'm not certain that the site was in google at all.) It doesn't matter whether SVG has reached Flash's market penetration yet or not: SVG can be just one alternative in a cascade.
Conceivably just as general illustration program or flowcharting / diagramming tool. But what's the benefit of inkscape over OOo Draw or Visio etc. ? SVG support is the main thing that stands out from http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/OpenDraw. (Plus the graph layout stuff, though I'd guess that Dia or Visio are still better than Inkscape for most graph drawing; though I think both can export to SVG.)
I'm definitely biased, but I've never really liked working in OpenDraw. It's got all the features, sure, but getting a nice looking drawing is a real chore compared with Inkscape.
I think the biggest advantage Inkscape has over OpenDraw is that we're much more active - drawing is the *only* thing we focus on, whereas with the OpenOffice developers, drawing is more of a secondary feature. But I've never actually talked with an OO Draw developer so who knows...
Bryce
Bryce Harrington wrote:
I'm definitely biased, but I've never really liked working in OpenDraw. It's got all the features, sure, but getting a nice looking drawing is a real chore compared with Inkscape.
I can echo this, I just can't stand the way the Bezier tool work in OOo Draw and the lack of antialiasing for drawings. But they will have a transition to a Cairo based canvas, so expect nice looking antialiased graphics: http://rodo.foo.cz/blog/?p=12 http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2005/presentations/thursday_b1.pdf
I think the biggest advantage Inkscape has over OpenDraw is that we're much more active - drawing is the *only* thing we focus on, whereas with the OpenOffice developers, drawing is more of a secondary feature. But I've never actually talked with an OO Draw developer so who knows...
Again, you are correct: OOo Draw is not really a separate application, it is in fact a special case of the presentation application, Impress, used in a single page mode.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Bryce Harrington wrote:
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I think the biggest advantage Inkscape has over OpenDraw is that we're much more active - drawing is the *only* thing we focus on, whereas with the OpenOffice developers, drawing is more of a secondary feature. But I've never actually talked with an OO Draw developer so who knows...
Again, you are correct: OOo Draw is not really a separate application, it is in fact a special case of the presentation application, Impress, used in a single page mode.
With that in mind it will be interesting to see how Inkscape can keep focussed and also support the animation aspects of SVG.
- Alan H.
On Saturday, March 18, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Alan Horkan wrote:
With that in mind it will be interesting to see how Inkscape can keep focussed and also support the animation aspects of SVG.
Oh, I think we have some ideas in regards to this. There are many different levels and uses for animation, and at least a few will be appropriate for Inkscape. We need to start getting some things defined, but already there's a clear idea that animation work for TV and/or movies is very different than animation work for SVG Tiny on Phones. The latter would probably be in the class that Inkscape would handle appropriately.
Oh, and we were actively talking about just this point tonight. We'll need to gather more info, but in general it seems like a good idea, and that defining the different animator use cases will help us keep a productive focus.
On 3/13/06, Peter Moulder wrote:
- Conceivably just as general illustration program or flowcharting / diagramming tool. But what's the benefit of inkscape over OOo Draw or Visio etc. ? SVG support is the main thing that stands out from http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/OpenDraw. (Plus the graph layout stuff, though I'd guess that Dia or Visio are still better than Inkscape for most graph drawing; though I think both can export to SVG.)
The main benefits over Dia/Kivio/Visio are:
- drawing is *really* fast; if you ever tried to learn Visio's hotkeys, you know what I'm talking about :) - clones are very useful for flowcharting, I use them all the time; - connector that works in almost any difficult case; - layers that work (implementation of layers in Visio plain sucks, Kivio's and Dia's ones are better though).
As for connectors, Visio 2007 has a new autorouting tool that is worth looking at. Dunno if Michael Wybrow has Beta1 of new MS Office and whether it's a good idea to nuke Dia in flowcharting battlefiled :)
I would say that when it comes to flowcharting, Inkscape is a great tool for users with artistic background who struggle against impossibility to do their work fast in "big good special tools".
Alexandre
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
As for connectors, Visio 2007 has a new autorouting tool that is worth looking at. Dunno if Michael Wybrow has Beta1 of new MS Office and whether it's a good idea to nuke Dia in flowcharting battlefiled :)
I've seen the routing tools in Visio 2003 Pro. I wasn't aware of the Office 2007 betas, but I just signed up to be notified of the next one.
Since I can't currently look at these new features of Visio 2007, would you care to comment on what you like about them?
One of the things I'm researching at the moment is orthogonal routing (i.e., connectors made of only vertical and horizinal lines). When this is added to libavoid, Inkscape will have it too.
Cheers, Michael
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