Jon, what is that new button you added to the main UI? For me it's just disabled so I have no idea what it does. Judging by the code, it has something to do with "adjusting the display". Do you think this adjusting has to happen so often as to deserve a button right where you added it? I think any adjustments are best kept in preferences.
In any case, the place you chose for the button is most unfortunate. I always hide the scrollbars to free some extra room for the canvas, and now this just results in two empty strips of unused space to the left and upwards from your button. In other words, your single button takes as much space as the two scrollbars! Please reconsider this.
On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:43 AM, bulia byak wrote:
Jon, what is that new button you added to the main UI? For me it's just disabled so I have no idea what it does. Judging by the code, it has something to do with "adjusting the display". Do you think this adjusting has to happen so often as to deserve a button right where you added it? I think any adjustments are best kept in preferences.
In any case, the place you chose for the button is most unfortunate. I always hide the scrollbars to free some extra room for the canvas, and now this just results in two empty strips of unused space to the left and upwards from your button. In other words, your single button takes as much space as the two scrollbars! Please reconsider this.
Certainly.
That was the button going in to toggle on and off CMS color adjustment per-view. I actually put in it so that I could get feedback on proper placement, operation, etc.
There are a few things that could be done. One is to just hide the button when the scroll bars are hidden. That would solve the space problems you are seeing, but still leave it accessible to others.
I could drop in only into the view menu, like outline mode is at the moment. However... that might cause confusion for end users. Outline mode is very self-evident when it is on. However, color management in operation might be hard to notice. People would just get annoyed at getting "ugly" colors, or "not the same" colors that are perceived as "wrong".
Another reason to have some visual feedback is for people with two or more monitors. The "ICC Profiles in X Specification" allows users to assign individual profiles to each monitor, or to leave individual monitors uncharacterized. Thus as a window is moved around their being adjusted might be turned on and off dynamically. So this having some visual indicator in the UI is helpful.
On Nov 17, 2007 12:39 PM, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...18...> wrote:
There are a few things that could be done. One is to just hide the button when the scroll bars are hidden. That would solve the space problems you are seeing, but still leave it accessible to others.
I don't think it's a good idea to tie display adjustment with the presence of scrollbars. This suggests some non-existent link between scrolling and colors.
I could drop in only into the view menu, like outline mode is at the moment. However... that might cause confusion for end users. Outline mode is very self-evident when it is on. However, color management in operation might be hard to notice. People would just get annoyed at getting "ugly" colors, or "not the same" colors that are perceived as "wrong".
Do other apps have such an indicator in the main UI? Photoshop or AI for example?
I personally don't see any problem with this thing being only in the menu. But if you think you must have a button, then the most logical place for it is in the statusbar, e.g. before the XYZ controls on the right. However, by all means please make it optional, off by default! The great majority of users will never use any color management, let alone use it so actively as to benefit from a statusbar button, so for them it will be just a wasted space and an annoyance if it's on by default.
On Nov 17, 2007 9:08 PM, bulia byak wrote:
I could drop in only into the view menu, like outline mode is at the moment. However... that might cause confusion for end users. Outline mode is very self-evident when it is on. However, color management in operation might be hard to notice. People would just get annoyed at getting "ugly" colors, or "not the same" colors that are perceived as "wrong".
Do other apps have such an indicator in the main UI? Photoshop or AI for example?
Scribus. There you can enable/disable color management and filters to simulate vision defects (protanopy etc.).
Alexandre
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