Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rules is a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contact Krzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process for complaints about moderators?
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has some training and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
All best, brynn
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rules is a clearand concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contact KrzysztofKosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process for complaints aboutmoderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has some training andexperience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Thanks Bryce.
IIRC he had felt we needed to have a
specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
Well that's a good sign that he's probably willing to continue in that role. But I will definitely contact him privately to confirm.
If anyone else in the community has some kind of experience with this, and might be interested to help.... I guess at this point, please just keep it in mind. Once I hear from Krzysztof, we'll know whether we need to recruit someone else.
Thanks again, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rules is a clearand concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contact KrzysztofKosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process for complaints aboutmoderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has some training andexperience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what the process was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documented process for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rules is a clearand concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contact KrzysztofKosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process for complaints aboutmoderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has some training andexperience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet? Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, doctormo@...400... wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet?
It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
SFC is very swamped right now. I would not suggest escalating to their level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
Bryce
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
I'm not sure.... Is this where to put it on the agenda? http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:06 AM To: doctormo@...400... Cc: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, doctormo@...400... wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet?
It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
SFC is very swamped right now. I would not suggest escalating to their level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
Bryce
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 04:36:06AM -0700, brynn wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
I'm not sure.... Is this where to put it on the agenda? http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
Yep!
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:06 AM To: doctormo@...400... Cc: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, doctormo@...400... wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet?
It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
SFC is very swamped right now. I would not suggest escalating to their level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
Bryce
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- > From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Sorry for the repeat.
Is this the right place? http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
And also, do I put it under Action Item?
Thanks again, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:06 AM To: doctormo@...400... Cc: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, doctormo@...400... wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet?
It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
SFC is very swamped right now. I would not suggest escalating to their level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
Bryce
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 04:39:06AM -0700, brynn wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Sorry for the repeat.
Is this the right place? http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
Yes, that's the official place currently.
And also, do I put it under Action Item?
Don't worry about action items on that page, they're a bit out of date.
(I'm hoping one day maybe moving all this into gitlab issues, but don't want to make changes until I know more exactly what we should do.)
Bryce
Thanks again, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:06 AM To: doctormo@...400... Cc: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, doctormo@...400... wrote:
We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and we'll identify a person for this role.
Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution project/service yet?
It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
SFC is very swamped right now. I would not suggest escalating to their level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
Bryce
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
Hi again, I've had a reply from Krzysztof. Unfortunately, he says he is no longer a good candidate for this position. So if we still want to use this process for settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
So this goes kind of out of my hands. I'm not sure what theprocess was to write the CoC. But I guess we have to decide if we still want a single person with this responsibility. And if so, who might be interested to do it.
Personally, I think it's important to have a documentedprocess for settling complaints. Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of team or panel, it's important to have it documented.
But I'm not sure what the next step should be.All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- > From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience. Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
Hi Friends, I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the rules and guidelines for the new forum. Except for the rules about selecting staff and staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should suffice. So I was just reviewing it.
One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rulesis a clear and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it fairly heard and settled.
In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contactKrzysztof Kosiński: tweenk.pl@...2620... Unless the complaint is about a moderator, in which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
First question - Why is it a different process forcomplaints about moderators?
The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has sometraining and experience in conflict resolution? Or do we have other community members with such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
Could you email him offlist and ask first? I don't know if he has training in this area myself. IIRC he had felt we needed to have a specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was willing to serve as that name.
It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be interested in serving in a formal role with the project. With the new forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to transition if it makes sense.
Bryce
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