What are your development plans for 0.93?
I've marked off the 0.92 items that were done from the Roadmap. A few things weren't finished and I've bumped them forward to 0.93. Some stuff I'm not certain of; if anyone else knows please update accordingly.
The 0.93 list of objectives looks more ambitious than I suspect the project can achieve within the coming year, and should be realigned to better forecast what's likely to be done.
A few items from the 0.93 roadmap are already under way:
* Gtk3 & drop Gtk2 * Git & drop bzr * CMake & drop autotools/btools/etc. * C++11 compiler hard requirement
I think we could safely add:
* OS X native packaging
What else could be considered to be added?
These I'm not so sure about, and might be candidates to postpone, if no one is looking at working on them presently:
* Flip y-cooridinate to match SVG * Dependency reorg * Unit test framework and major test case expansion * Windows uninstaller * New Swatch dialog
Thoughts on the above? Or any other Roadmap modifications that should be discussed?
Bryce
Am 19.02.2017 um 23:28 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
- Windows uninstaller
Uninstallers should be working fine (both .msi and .exe). I was putting some additional work into it lately and I'm not aware of any remaining issues so this can safely be marked as done. Didn't even know this was a roadmap item...
Regards, Eduard
It's not a glamorous suggestion, but I strongly suggest that we focus our efforts on fixing everything that we (mostly I!) have broken through the underlying infrastructure changes and then taking advantage of the new capabilities.
We've had a few years now of basically ensuring that we can compile on Gtk+ 3 systems, and now we've flipped the switch so that we require them. It's time now to work through every feature, every dialog and a wide range of workflows and check: (a) they still work correctly (b) they still look and feel good (or better!), and (c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
Best wishes,
Alex
On 20 February 2017 at 00:13, Eduard Braun <eduard.braun2@...173...> wrote:
Am 19.02.2017 um 23:28 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
- Windows uninstaller
Uninstallers should be working fine (both .msi and .exe). I was putting some additional work into it lately and I'm not aware of any remaining issues so this can safely be marked as done. Didn't even know this was a roadmap item...
Regards, Eduard
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On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 21:19 +0000, Alex Valavanis wrote:
It's not a glamorous suggestion, but I strongly suggest that we focus our efforts on fixing everything that we (mostly I!) have broken through the underlying infrastructure changes and then taking advantage of the new capabilities.
We've had a few years now of basically ensuring that we can compile on Gtk+ 3 systems, and now we've flipped the switch so that we require them. It's time now to work through every feature, every dialog and a wide range of workflows and check: (a) they still work correctly (b) they still look and feel good (or better!), and (c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
This is a good idea, but it will require a solid organisation of the task. I'm talking lists of todos, someone to hunt for people to help with work (because it will need multiple eyes) and since we'll be looking at dialogs and ui, maybe some simple easy ui changes too.
Would you be willing to be the checklist generator and check marker for this kind of task Alex?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Alex Valavanis wrote:
them. It's time now to work through every feature, every dialog and a wide range of workflows and check: (a) they still work correctly (b) they still look and feel good (or better!), and (c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
If I may just chime in, there was that strange notion :) that dockable dialogs need to play along nicely in terms of width. Currently they all seem to be designed as single entities, so they take as much width as they want, and the rest has to adapt. Which makes some dialogs unnecessarily large.
If this is something you could put under b) and/or c), quite a few people out there would find themselves being happy puppies with wagging tails and whatnot :)
Alex
I also suggest focusing on fixing bugs and optimizing performance instead of new features.
For the few people who use Inkscape for art purposes, like Vlada and I, and can't tolerate interruptions, faster rendering would be very welcome. I submitted a patch that sped up the gaussian blur filter 5x from vectorization, but I don't think anyone has reviewed it.
https://code.launchpad.net/~simdgenius/inkscape/inkscape
I also have a patch for turbulence. Manual vectorization might not be an elegant solution and I know of the proposal to approximate gaussian blur as a series of 3 box blurs. But can that approximation replace the current IIR filter for high quality settings? If not, then the vectorized version can still be used.
I also had a patch for multithreaded rendering. Vlada and I have been using it for a while and it seems stable enough to be considered an experimental feature. The one case where it doesn't help is when zooming into a very blurred region, but it shouldn't be slower than single thread.
I can make some side by side videos showing the speedup.
-Yale
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Alex Valavanis wrote:
them. It's time now to work through every feature, every dialog and a wide range of workflows and check: (a) they still work correctly (b) they still look and feel good (or better!), and (c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
If I may just chime in, there was that strange notion :) that dockable dialogs need to play along nicely in terms of width. Currently they all seem to be designed as single entities, so they take as much width as they want, and the rest has to adapt. Which makes some dialogs unnecessarily large.
If this is something you could put under b) and/or c), quite a few people out there would find themselves being happy puppies with wagging tails and whatnot :)
Alex
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Cool Yale, I hope I can see it on action soon.
Cheers, Jabier.
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 04:55 -0800, Yale Zhang wrote:
I also suggest focusing on fixing bugs and optimizing performance instead of new features.
For the few people who use Inkscape for art purposes, like Vlada and I, and can't tolerate interruptions, faster rendering would be very welcome. I submitted a patch that sped up the gaussian blur filter 5x from vectorization, but I don't think anyone has reviewed it.
https://code.launchpad.net/~simdgenius/inkscape/inkscape
I also have a patch for turbulence. Manual vectorization might not be an elegant solution and I know of the proposal to approximate gaussian blur as a series of 3 box blurs. But can that approximation replace the current IIR filter for high quality settings? If not, then the vectorized version can still be used.
I also had a patch for multithreaded rendering. Vlada and I have been using it for a while and it seems stable enough to be considered an experimental feature. The one case where it doesn't help is when zooming into a very blurred region, but it shouldn't be slower than single thread.
I can make some side by side videos showing the speedup.
-Yale
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Alex Valavanis wrote:
them. It's time now to work through every feature, every dialog and a wide range of workflows and check: (a) they still work correctly (b) they still look and feel good (or better!), and (c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
If I may just chime in, there was that strange notion :) that dockable dialogs need to play along nicely in terms of width. Currently they all seem to be designed as single entities, so they take as much width as they want, and the rest has to adapt. Which makes some dialogs unnecessarily large.
If this is something you could put under b) and/or c), quite a few people out there would find themselves being happy puppies with wagging tails and whatnot :)
Alex
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I see some of his code time ago when publish it but not sure if I know enoght about this kind of things. Anyway I try to review in a basic way.
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 10:24 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 15:32 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Cool Yale, I hope I can see it on action soon.
Are you able to review his code, at least in a basic way?
Martin,
On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 04:55 -0800, Yale Zhang wrote:
I also suggest focusing on fixing bugs and optimizing performance instead of new features.
For the few people who use Inkscape for art purposes, like Vlada and I, and can't tolerate interruptions, faster rendering would be very welcome. I submitted a patch that sped up the gaussian blur filter 5x from vectorization, but I don't think anyone has reviewed it.
https://code.launchpad.net/~simdgenius/inkscape/inkscape
I also have a patch for turbulence. Manual vectorization might not be an elegant solution and I know of the proposal to approximate gaussian blur as a series of 3 box blurs. But can that approximation replace the current IIR filter for high quality settings? If not, then the vectorized version can still be used.
I also had a patch for multithreaded rendering. Vlada and I have been using it for a while and it seems stable enough to be considered an experimental feature. The one case where it doesn't help is when zooming into a very blurred region, but it shouldn't be slower than single thread.
I can make some side by side videos showing the speedup.
Please keep pestering us until these patches are incorporated!
A couple of comments from a quick look: The new files need licensing information and there seems to be very little documentation in the code.
Tav
Am 20.02.2017 um 22:19 schrieb Alex Valavanis:
(c) whether Gtk+ 3 offers us new opportunities to do things better... e.g., better tablet/multi-touch support, better support for context menus, smarter use of UI and icon themes...
Btw. there seems to be an Android App for Inkscape (and Gimp, in one). Has anyone ever tried it?
http://inkscapegarden.com/news-and-event/inkscape-on-android/
Maren
Best wishes,
Alex
On 20 February 2017 at 00:13, Eduard Braun <eduard.braun2@...173...> wrote:
Am 19.02.2017 um 23:28 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
- Windows uninstaller
Uninstallers should be working fine (both .msi and .exe). I was putting some additional work into it lately and I'm not aware of any remaining issues so this can safely be marked as done. Didn't even know this was a roadmap item...
Regards, Eduard
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On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 01:06 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Btw. there seems to be an Android App for Inkscape (and Gimp, in one). Has anyone ever tried it?
http://inkscapegarden.com/news-and-event/inkscape-on-android/
It sounds like they're installing a full OS, kind of interesting. When I get a new battery for my tablet, I'll give it a go.
Anyone else tried it? (or able to?)
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 14:28 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
I've marked off the 0.92 items that were done from the Roadmap. A few things weren't finished and I've bumped them forward to 0.93. Some stuff I'm not certain of; if anyone else knows please update accordingly.
The 0.93 list of objectives looks more ambitious than I suspect the project can achieve within the coming year, and should be realigned to better forecast what's likely to be done.
A few items from the 0.93 roadmap are already under way:
* Gtk3 & drop Gtk2 * Git & drop bzr * CMake & drop autotools/btools/etc. * C++11 compiler hard requirement
I think we could safely add:
* OS X native packaging
What else could be considered to be added?
I personally am working on the new Style dialog. I also plan to add editing support for SVG 2 text (rendering already mostly works). SVG 2 text has a natural SVG 1.1 fallback option which will solve the flowed text problem. I will also help with Gtk3 work.
These I'm not so sure about, and might be candidates to postpone, if no one is looking at working on them presently:
* Flip y-cooridinate to match SVG * Dependency reorg * Unit test framework and major test case expansion * Windows uninstaller * New Swatch dialog
Thoughts on the above? Or any other Roadmap modifications that should be discussed?
Bryce
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Alex Valavanis -
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Maren Hachmann -
Martin Owens -
Tavmjong Bah -
Tim Sheridan -
Yale Zhang