Hi there,
I was wondering if it'd be possible to use a more Aqua-ish theme for the OSX version in the next release? I think that The Gimp includes a GTK theme which makes it blend in more with the OSX desktop. I believe that an aperance that blends in a bit more would make it more acceptable to OSX users.
I made a screenshot with the Gimp and Inkscape side by side and made some notes on the things I think help the Gimp blend in more. http://www.stuporglue.org/downloads/screenshots/MacishGTK.jpg
I can file a feature request if that'd be the right thing to do.
Thanks,
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Michael Moore wrote:
I was wondering if it'd be possible to use a more Aqua-ish theme for the OSX version in the next release? I think that The Gimp includes a GTK theme which makes it blend in more with the OSX desktop. I believe that an aperance that blends in a bit more would make it more acceptable to OSX users.
I made a screenshot with the Gimp and Inkscape side by side and made some notes on the things I think help the Gimp blend in more. http://www.stuporglue.org/downloads/screenshots/MacishGTK.jpg
Gimp does this by including an OSX GTK theme as part of Gimp.app. I tried this same theme on Inkscape when first creating an OSX app of Inkscape and found it didn't work very well due to us using some different widgets or widgets of different sizes. Thus I decided not to include the theme as part of our official packages.
This could be revisited... Probably this would just need someone to update the theme in some cases to work specifically with Inkscape.
Cheers, Michael
Gimp does this by including an OSX GTK theme as part of Gimp.app. I tried this same theme on Inkscape when first creating an OSX app of Inkscape and found it didn't work very well due to us using some different widgets or widgets of different sizes. Thus I decided not to include the theme as part of our official packages.
This could be revisited... Probably this would just need someone to update the theme in some cases to work specifically with Inkscape.
I'm afraid I've never played with GTK themes and am not near my wife's Mac at the moment. Does this involve editing bitmaps to the right size, or editing text files, or source code and compiling or what?
I don't have any devel stuff on the Mac, but if it's bitmaps or text files, I may be able to work with it.
Thanks,
On 03 Aug 2006, at 04:14 , Michael Moore wrote:
Hi there, I was wondering if it'd be possible to use a more Aqua-ish theme for the OSX version in the next release? I think that The Gimp includes a GTK theme which makes it blend in more with the OSX desktop. I believe that an aperance that blends in a bit more would make it more acceptable to OSX users.
I made a screenshot with the Gimp and Inkscape side by side and made some notes on the things I think help the Gimp blend in more. http://www.stuporglue.org/downloads/screenshots/MacishGTK.jpg
I can file a feature request if that'd be the right thing to do.
I personally do not like Gimp's theme very much because: - It is kind of aqua but not really aqua so it seems to fit but finally irritates (me at least) - It is only Aqua Blue and not Aqua Graphite so cannot fit with everybody's desktop anyway - It forces some GTK theme elements (font and font size namely) and this is not over-passed by personal options (in .gtkrc-2.0), thus limiting user configurability which is bad.
Nevertheless, I agree that Inkscape's basic appearance is quite frightening on the mac. I would vote for applying a theme that is Mac'ish but is not "king of aqua" (because we cannot reproduce exactly aqua anyway) while respecting user level configuration files. In fact I do that already and use Inkscape (and Gimp BTW) with a GTK theme derived from a Mac ShapeShifter theme called Milk, with gtk- font-name="Lucida Grande 11". http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/567 (In the version I have the progress bar bug is fixed) I find it fits well on an Aqua desktop. (Actually I even think ShapeShifter's Milk theme looks better than Aqua but this is another story). Here are some screenshot of Gimp and Inkscape with this theme, with some other Aqua apps to see how it fits: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/with_blue.png http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/with_graphite.png
What do people think?
JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/
Nevertheless, I agree that Inkscape's basic appearance is quite frightening on the mac. I would vote for applying a theme that is Mac'ish but is not "king of aqua" (because we cannot reproduce exactly aqua anyway) while respecting user level configuration files.
In fact I do that already and use Inkscape (and Gimp BTW) with a GTK theme derived from a Mac ShapeShifter theme called Milk,
What do people think?
I'm personally fine with it. Inkscape is not a Cocoa app, and shouldn't be expected to look or act just like one, but if it looked better, it'd be more pleasant to use :-)
My wife has finally gotten quite good with the Gimp, and I'm trying to get her to start using Inkscape more since it'd be more appropriate for some of the stuff she does. I think there's something of a UI-shock when switching -- even though Inkscape's controls and layout are much better and more intuitive than the Gimps.
Thanks,
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jiho
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Michael Moore
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Michael Wybrow