
Hi,
Could anybody please explain how one could get Tango icons back? The last thing I heard is that one should be using Tango icons on system level to get them in Inkscape. Well, I switched to Tango theme in GNOME prefs and I still see the default icon theme. I don't mean to ask for a new feature this close to releasing, but for future - just how difficult would it be to add a simple switcher in Preferences and get rid of this brain damage forever? :)
Alexandre

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:37 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
I don't mean to ask for a new feature this close to releasing, but for future - just how difficult would it be to add a simple switcher in Preferences and get rid of this brain damage forever? :)
Not difficult, but wrong.
By using the icon naming spec and theming we have the opportunity to make it so that you change the setting once for your desktop and you'd have the same icon for the same thing in all programs, which could give a big boon the "Create Suite" concept with Open Source graphics apps.
--Ted

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
Not difficult, but wrong.
By using the icon naming spec and theming we have the opportunity to make it so that you change the setting once for your desktop and you'd have the same icon for the same thing in all programs, which could give a big boon the "Create Suite" concept with Open Source graphics apps.
Uhm, let's see :) Let's imagine that Tango icons suddenly work as expected. Then a user switches from Tango to a different theme that stil bears resemblance to Tango (say, GNOME Brave). What will happen then?
Alexandre

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:57 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
By using the icon naming spec and theming we have the opportunity to make it so that you change the setting once for your desktop and you'd have the same icon for the same thing in all programs, which could give a big boon the "Create Suite" concept with Open Source graphics apps.
Uhm, let's see :) Let's imagine that Tango icons suddenly work as expected. Then a user switches from Tango to a different theme that stil bears resemblance to Tango (say, GNOME Brave). What will happen then?
The icon specification provides for things like fall back icons and for icon themes providing their own set of fallbacks. So most icon themes that ship today are actually a base set, with a fallback to a more complete set that is similar. Also, many applications ship with a default set of icons that the theme can override. Sure, in those cases GIMP and Inkscape wouldn't match, but that's no worse than we have today.
--Ted

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
The icon specification provides for things like fall back icons and for icon themes providing their own set of fallbacks. So most icon themes that ship today are actually a base set, with a fallback to a more complete set that is similar. Also, many applications ship with a default set of icons that the theme can override. Sure, in those cases GIMP and Inkscape wouldn't match, but that's no worse than we have today.
But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
Alexandre

On Sep 13, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
The icon specification provides for things like fall back icons and for icon themes providing their own set of fallbacks. So most icon themes that ship today are actually a base set, with a fallback to a more complete set that is similar. Also, many applications ship with a default set of icons that the theme can override. Sure, in those cases GIMP and Inkscape wouldn't match, but that's no worse than we have today.
But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
No.
If external icons with the given names are present in the directory set, then those will override the internal ones.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
No. If external icons with the given names are present in the directory set, then those will override the internal ones.
OK, so what is the step-by-step tutorial to have Tango icons in Inkscape?
Alexandre

On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
No. If external icons with the given names are present in the directory set, then those will override the internal ones.
OK, so what is the step-by-step tutorial to have Tango icons in Inkscape?
Well.. the old way of copying over the proper .svg will work. There are a few other ways too. Once a few things get settled down I'll go thoug the mailing list to re-read what was discussed previously.

If you have old Inkscape sources around, there should be share/icons/tango directory (I have it in svn revision21309). Rename it to "hicolor" and move to ~/.config/inkscape/icons Another way is to replace /usr/share/inkscape/icons.svg with /usr/share/inkscape/tango_icons.svg file. For some reason copying /usr/share/inkscape/icons/tango_icons.svg to ~/.config/inkscape/icons/icons.svg doesn't work any longer.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...18...> wrote:
On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
No. If external icons with the given names are present in the directory set, then those will override the internal ones.
OK, so what is the step-by-step tutorial to have Tango icons in Inkscape?
Well.. the old way of copying over the proper .svg will work. There are a few other ways too. Once a few things get settled down I'll go thoug the mailing list to re-read what was discussed previously.
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Alexandre Prokoudine
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Jarosław Foksa
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Jon A. Cruz
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Ted Gould