David,

Hi! Good to hear from you. For the last few months I have been working on a "Pedro 2" which is far superior to the existing one. Also, it is closer to Ted's idea of decoupling the XMPP agent from Inkscape. I talked to the "stpeter" guy who does the XMPP specs and found out that I had some misconceptions about XMPP as an XML transport.

I have some ideas about how to better use XMPP as a transport -without- damaging an XML fragment in transit.

bob

On 1/26/2009 8:35 PM, yipdw1 wrote:

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Hi Irving,

I'm one of the original developers of the whiteboard code. Dale Harvey (last email address I have for him: harveyd@...400...) took my original code and extended it. Bob Jamison wrote Pedro, the XMPP client library used by the whiteboard code.

It's been a long time since I looked at it (really, anything Inkscape-related at all), but it's possible that I might still know enough about it to offer general pointers.

I'm really glad someone is interested in taking up Inkboard. I still think it's a cool idea, but making time to work on it -- after meaning to do so after a few years -- seems like something that I just can't do.

Thanks,

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Irving Popovetsky wrote:

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Hello,

I'm the one that filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/319107 on the jabber whiteboard and I'm interested in this feature.

I'm currently looking for any Inkscape developers that are even somewhat familiar with jabber whiteboard/Pedro section of code in Inkscape and have what it takes to work on it. I'm currently looking to either recruit developers to this cause or else get some candid feedback on how much effort would be required to get this feature usable.

Thanks in advance,

-Irving Popovetsky

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2009/1/27 Bob Jamison <rwjj@...127...>:

Hi! Good to hear from you. For the last few months I have been working on a "Pedro 2" which is far superior to the existing one

That's great news!

Kamaelia has an XMP library and seems good for handling concurrency aspects of this feature.

Cheers, Dave

Hello!

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Dale Harvey <harveyd@...400...> wrote:

Since I had to stop working on inkboard, ive made a few attempts to go back in and get it back to a usable state.

Perhaps it helps to have ha look at AbiWords[1] collaboration service. they use XMPP too. Perhaps we can even use their collaboration server. [2] You can find more infos in this blog: http://uwog.net/news/?p=18

Regards, Tobias

[1] http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.6.0.phtml [2] http://abicollab.net/

I don't know if you got the earlier email traffic, but I have completely recoded Pedro from scratch, so it is now easily extendable, and has a cleaner interface. Also, that out-of-order packet bug is gone. It was just a problem of packets being inserted into and popped from the queue in the wrong order.

I talked to the XMPP guys, and have some new ideas how to properly pass XML Events across the net.

And third, Pedro can now run more decoupled from the rest of Inkscape, so maybe we can try out Ted's idea of running the agent separately, like how dbus/Telepathy do it.

bob

On 1/30/2009 12:39 AM, Dale Harvey wrote:

Hey

Since I had to stop working on inkboard, ive made a few attempts to go back in and get it back to a usable state.

My main blocker has been trying to refactor the interface, the way I had built it was entirely unusable and annoying even for testing, 6 dialogs opening etc, however my knowledge (lack of) of gtk, c++ and inkscape internals made it a pretty long task.

The pedro client as is worked very well when it was being built, with the main poblem being the server load (and xmpp implementation bugs).

I would love to see inkboard get finished, I have a pretty hectic schedule for the next 2 months where I might be able to hack around on the occasional day, but after the 2 month if noone else has taken it up I will try my best.

(and if someone else does take it up, please dont judge me on that code, I was new :) )

my xmpp is daleharvey@...2128... mailto:daleharvey@...2128... if anyone wants to talk about it (or is able to give me a hand redoing the interface)

Cheers Dale

2009/1/29 Dave Crossland <dave@...1555... mailto:dave@...1555...>

2009/1/27 Bob Jamison <rwjj@...127...
<mailto:rwjj@...127...>>:
> Hi!   Good to hear from you.   For the last few months I have
been working
> on a "Pedro 2" which is far superior to the existing one

That's great news!

Kamaelia has an XMP library and seems good for handling concurrency
aspects of this feature.

Cheers,
Dave

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