Dear Inkscape developers,
Sibelius is a Qt-based application that uses Qt's built-in SVG support to export SVG graphics. These SVGs open fine in various web browsers (e.g. Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer), but the text does not appear correctly in Inkscape.
Please see the attached example. Does this problem lie on Inkscape's side, or on Qt's side?
Thanks,
Daniel
Hello Daniel,
I was able to see the attached SVG's text in the currently Inkscape release (0.48.3.1) from Ubuntu 12.04 and it appeared very similar to both Chrome and Firefox. Can you provide some more detail on which os/app versions and what does not "appear correctly" for you ?
________________________________ From: Daniel Spreadbury <daniel.spreadbury@...2877...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:18 PM Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Text in SVGs exported from Sibelius
Dear Inkscape developers,
Sibelius is a Qt-based application that uses Qt's built-in SVG support to export SVG graphics. These SVGs open fine in various web browsers (e.g. Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer), but the text does not appear correctly in Inkscape.
Please see the attached example. Does this problem lie on Inkscape's side, or on Qt's side?
Thanks,
Daniel
Hi John,
I was opening my SVG file in the current version of Inkscape for both Windows and Mac, and both platforms exhibit the same problem. This is despite the fact that the fonts named in the SVG file are installed on these computers.
Daniel
John Smith wrote:
Hello Daniel,
I was able to see the attached SVG's text in the currently Inkscape release (0.48.3.1) from Ubuntu 12.04 and it appeared very similar to both Chrome and Firefox. Can you provide some more detail on which os/app versions and what does not "appear correctly" for you ?
*From:* Daniel Spreadbury <daniel.spreadbury@...2877...> *To:* inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:18 PM *Subject:* [Inkscape-devel] Text in SVGs exported from Sibelius
Dear Inkscape developers,
Sibelius is a Qt-based application that uses Qt's built-in SVG support to export SVG graphics. These SVGs open fine in various web browsers (e.g. Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer), but the text does not appear correctly in Inkscape.
Please see the attached example. Does this problem lie on Inkscape's side, or on Qt's side?
Thanks,
Daniel
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The file 'London Bridge.svg' renders just fine in Inkscape 0.48.2 for Mac OS X (tested on Mac OS X 10.5.8 and OS X 10.7.4), assuming the correct fonts are installed.
Note: I first tried it with the fonts shipping with the trial version of Scorch (6.2.0). Since these fonts install with a different name than referenced in the SVG file (e.g. 'Opus' instead of 'Opus Std') Inkscape only was able to use them after creating corresponding font alias rules for fontconfig.
With the fonts installed by the trial version of 'Sibelius First' however (which have the same font names as referenced in the SVG file), Inkscape is able to find and use all fonts, and correctly render the SVG file AFAICT (see attached screenshot).
On Windows, failure to render symbols from the special musical fonts is possibly to due to lack of support for Unicode-based symbol fonts in current stable versions: - Bug #239631 "Musical Truetype font not listed and not available" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/239631 which was marked as duplicate of - Bug #165665 "non-Unicode symbol fonts do not work on Windows" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/165665
hth, ~suv
On 28/06/2012 11:50, Daniel Spreadbury wrote:
Hi John,
I was opening my SVG file in the current version of Inkscape for both Windows and Mac, and both platforms exhibit the same problem. This is despite the fact that the fonts named in the SVG file are installed on these computers.
Daniel
John Smith wrote:
Hello Daniel,
I was able to see the attached SVG's text in the currently Inkscape release (0.48.3.1) from Ubuntu 12.04 and it appeared very similar to both Chrome and Firefox. Can you provide some more detail on which os/app versions and what does not "appear correctly" for you ?
*From:* Daniel Spreadbury <daniel.spreadbury@...2877...> *To:* inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:18 PM *Subject:* [Inkscape-devel] Text in SVGs exported from Sibelius
Dear Inkscape developers,
Sibelius is a Qt-based application that uses Qt's built-in SVG support to export SVG graphics. These SVGs open fine in various web browsers (e.g. Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer), but the text does not appear correctly in Inkscape.
Please see the attached example. Does this problem lie on Inkscape's side, or on Qt's side?
Thanks,
Daniel
-- Daniel Spreadbury Senior Product Manager | Sibelius R & D
Avid Unit 20-23 City North Fonthill Road London N4 3HF United Kingdom daniel.spreadbury@...2877... mailto:daniel.spreadbury@...2877...
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Hi ~suv,
Thanks for taking the time to try this. I will need to try the Mac version again, as I wasn't able to reproduce your results, but I'm glad that it does in fact work on Mac, and may work on Windows in future.
All the best,
Daniel
~suv wrote:
The file 'London Bridge.svg' renders just fine in Inkscape 0.48.2 for Mac OS X (tested on Mac OS X 10.5.8 and OS X 10.7.4), assuming the correct fonts are installed.
Note: I first tried it with the fonts shipping with the trial version of Scorch (6.2.0). Since these fonts install with a different name than referenced in the SVG file (e.g. 'Opus' instead of 'Opus Std') Inkscape only was able to use them after creating corresponding font alias rules for fontconfig.
With the fonts installed by the trial version of 'Sibelius First' however (which have the same font names as referenced in the SVG file), Inkscape is able to find and use all fonts, and correctly render the SVG file AFAICT (see attached screenshot).
On Windows, failure to render symbols from the special musical fonts is possibly to due to lack of support for Unicode-based symbol fonts in current stable versions:
- Bug #239631 "Musical Truetype font not listed and not available" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/239631
which was marked as duplicate of
- Bug #165665 "non-Unicode symbol fonts do not work on Windows" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/165665
hth, ~suv
On 28/06/2012 11:50, Daniel Spreadbury wrote:
Hi John,
I was opening my SVG file in the current version of Inkscape for both Windows and Mac, and both platforms exhibit the same problem. This is despite the fact that the fonts named in the SVG file are installed on these computers.
Daniel
John Smith wrote:
Hello Daniel,
I was able to see the attached SVG's text in the currently Inkscape release (0.48.3.1) from Ubuntu 12.04 and it appeared very similar to both Chrome and Firefox. Can you provide some more detail on which os/app versions and what does not "appear correctly" for you ?
*From:* Daniel Spreadbury<daniel.spreadbury@...2877...> *To:* inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:18 PM *Subject:* [Inkscape-devel] Text in SVGs exported from Sibelius
Dear Inkscape developers,
Sibelius is a Qt-based application that uses Qt's built-in SVG support to export SVG graphics. These SVGs open fine in various web browsers (e.g. Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer), but the text does not appear correctly in Inkscape.
Please see the attached example. Does this problem lie on Inkscape's side, or on Qt's side?
Thanks,
Daniel
-- Daniel Spreadbury Senior Product Manager | Sibelius R& D
Avid Unit 20-23 City North Fonthill Road London N4 3HF United Kingdom daniel.spreadbury@...2877...mailto:daniel.spreadbury@...2877...
t +44 (0)20 7561 7915 | m +44 (0)7990 558997 | f +44 (0)20 7561 7888
Sibelius is Avid. Learn more at www.avid.comhttp://www.avid.com/
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2012/6/28 ~suv <suv-sf@...58...>:
On Windows, failure to render symbols from the special musical fonts is possibly to due to lack of support for Unicode-based symbol fonts in current stable versions:
- Bug #239631 "Musical Truetype font not listed and not available" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/239631
which was marked as duplicate of
- Bug #165665 "non-Unicode symbol fonts do not work on Windows" https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/165665
My guess is that using platform-specific Pango font APIs instead of using fontconfig on all platforms could fix this.
Regards, Krzysztof
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