It's nearly finished as far as I can tell, still missing some 3D box icons but I don't know what they should look like.
Major changes since last version: *all icons are done *changed look of raise/lower icons *"tweak" tool uses "smudge" icon from art libre set *transform icons taken from art libre set *align icons taken from art libre set (or extrapolated from their style)
problems: ink pressure/tilt settings don't show (but the old ones do for some reason) some icons are taken from the desktop's icon theme and so the layer icons should match the ones in the layer dialog but don't match on all platforms same goes for paste icons like paste in place that don't always match the look of the generic paste icon.
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On 2007-December-20 , at 23:48 , Michael Grosberg wrote:
It's nearly finished as far as I can tell, still missing some 3D box icons but I don't know what they should look like.
Major changes since last version: *all icons are done *changed look of raise/lower icons *"tweak" tool uses "smudge" icon from art libre set *transform icons taken from art libre set *align icons taken from art libre set (or extrapolated from their style)
problems: ink pressure/tilt settings don't show (but the old ones do for some reason) some icons are taken from the desktop's icon theme and so the layer icons should match the ones in the layer dialog but don't match on all platforms same goes for paste icons like paste in place that don't always match the look of the generic paste icon.
very nice work!
Some suggestions: - import export from ocal: I'd rather see the arrows horizontal to match regular import and export - raise-lower: somehow the raise lower object icons make me think about layers rather than objects, but I agree it was already like this in their previous incarnation -layers: as per Tango guidelines, the perspective should be frontal, not from the side as currently. did it look bad? - zoom: the small zoom icons are difficult to read. I would completely get rid of the magnifying glass handle and only keep the circle. or discale the magnifying glass completely and just keep the icons blue. - node edit tool: arrow should be thiner to match the pointer icon - pattern: I would make the dots black/grey to match the rest of the icons (gradient, uniform fill etc.) - gradient tool: add some handles? - pen, bezier, calligraphy: add a preview of the line style as there is in current icons? - layer visibility: I don't really like this eye. Avoiding the brown and making it more geometric may help - transform: the move icon looks too much like a flip icon. the arrow should point in one direction only - scale hor et ver are inverted - stroke paint and stroke style: why not try them in blue to match the rest - stroke paint: does not need the handle which is there currently, just a coloured stroke and the pen - the trace bitmap icon does not evoque tracing bitmaps at all to me, but this is the way it is curerntly. maybe you could improve this? ;)
That's a lot of things but really, overall, the theme is very nice.
What do other think? Still in time for 0.46?
(I just committed this)
JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 09:00:14AM +0100, jiho wrote:
On 2007-December-20 , at 23:48 , Michael Grosberg wrote:
It's nearly finished as far as I can tell, still missing some 3D box
What do other think? Still in time for 0.46?
(I just committed this)
Non-code changes like icons, tutorials, man pages, etc. have lower risk of generating regressions so we can give a tad more leeway. However if you expect that there will be significantly more work done in the coming days or weeks, let me know that you'll need a freeze exception request for it. (I'm putting the list together now, so speak up soon.)
Bryce
On Dec 21, 2007 3:37 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 09:00:14AM +0100, jiho wrote:
On 2007-December-20 , at 23:48 , Michael Grosberg wrote:
It's nearly finished as far as I can tell, still missing some 3D box
What do other think? Still in time for 0.46?
I'm more or less ambivalent about the non-tool icons - they look paler but overall not much better or worse, to me, than the old ones. But I'm still opposed to the Tango tool icons, for the reasons I already enumerated. Feel free to ship the theme with 0.46 and advertise it, but please don't make it the default.
bulia byak <buliabyak@...360...> writes:
I'm more or less ambivalent about the non-tool icons - they look paler but overall not much better or worse, to me, than the old ones. But I'm still opposed to the Tango tool icons, for the reasons I already enumerated. Feel free to ship the theme with 0.46 and advertise it, but please don't make it the default.
Can you tell me what those reasons were? I don't think I remember you talking about it - not in the mailing list anyway.
On Dec 22, 2007 5:10 AM, Michael Grosberg <preacher_public@...19...> wrote:
bulia byak <buliabyak@...360...> writes: Can you tell me what those reasons were? I don't think I remember you talking about it - not in the mailing list anyway.
from my old mail:
- are too pale and too different in blackness/visual clout - some are barely visible on a LCD (star), some are much more visible, but overall they are much paler and drabber than our current set
- lack meaningful parallelism: it is not coincidental that pen, pencil, and calligraphic pen in our current set are all drawn at the same slant; in tango the pen is way too different in all aspects, breaking the consistency of drawing tools
- lack coordination with our mouse cursors: in our current set, node tool uses this thin triangular black pointer depicted on its icon, and paintbucket cursor is also similar to the icon - this is not the case with proposed icons
- lack a lot of meaningful details that help Inkscape user understand the purpose and operation of the tool: cursor in Text, handles and gradient line in Gradient, both polygon and star in Star tool to suggest it can create both, mnemonic colors of shape tools that correspond to their default colors in newly installed Inkscape.
Also:
Re drabness: please consider that Inkscape is a young upstart application, so it's perfectly adequate for it to use bright, memorable icons. This builds recognizability. And now, when it just started to gain wide popularity, it would be the worst time IMHO to change its appearance so drastically and not necessarily for the good. Adobe Illustrator, in its position, may afford very not-in-your-face icons; we may not yet. Besides, AI's icons are much more consistent and eye-pleasing, even though (and maybe because) they are all grayscale, no color at all. This makes a statement. Tango seems to me like it wants to be too many things at once: it is pale but not uniformly pale, and it's colored but not really making good use of the color.
Take paintbucket for example: our icon is very obvious, descriptive, and blends well with the rest. Tango's paintbucket is simply hard to understand - doesn't look very much like a bucket, and what is that blue thing? Especially considering that people don't normally expect to see a paintbucket tool in a vector app.
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