question on Google's Summer of Code

Hello. I'm interested in Google's Summer of Code.
= resume starts = I am a little aged student of Electrical Engineering, Seoul National University. I have worked IBM solution SI (for 1 year), P2P LEGAL! ;) multimedia streaming server development at Korean top portal NAVER (for 2 years), and intranet and internet board game developments as part-time job. On opensource, I'm leading document translation projects (apache httpd, linux gazette) and have made minor patches (on i18n). I can speak C++, but I'm mainly using C, Java, Perl, Python. = resume ends =
I plan to make many presentation format (PDF, swf, SVG, XSL-FO, CSS for print, ...) creation/convert tool/library. There are many good opensource tools/libraries. But I'm concerned about i18n (especially CJK) and (from the latest spec) new feature support. Then I'll evaluate them each, and choose one or start from scratch.
I learned Google's offer from the new, and found that Inkscape's vector format import/export project and my goal overlap. Please let me know what I can do for Inkscape, within summer or without just summer limit.
+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Jeon, Jeong ho | http://www.myscan.org/~mahajjh/ | | electrical engineering, | mahajjh@...834... | | seoul national univ. | si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes :-) +-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+

On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 12:31:21AM +0900, Jeon Jeongho wrote:
I learned Google's offer from the new, and found that Inkscape's vector format import/export project and my goal overlap. Please let me know what I can do for Inkscape, within summer or without just summer limit.
Hi Jeon,
We've posted a set of ideas for projects here:
http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Googles_Summer_Of_Code
As well, you can check the Inkscape Feature Request list for even more ideas, if those don't fit your interests:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309
There's lots and lots of interest in improving support for document format conversions. :-)
Bryce

On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 00:31 +0900, Jeon Jeongho wrote:
Hello. I'm interested in Google's Summer of Code.
= resume starts = I am a little aged student of Electrical Engineering, Seoul National University. I have worked IBM solution SI (for 1 year), P2P LEGAL! ;) multimedia streaming server development at Korean top portal NAVER (for 2 years), and intranet and internet board game developments as part-time job.
Whoa...cool...Seoul National is great and so is Naver! But are you good at kart.nexon.com ? I have done work for a Korean company http://www.gopetslive.com and have lectured around Seoul (in addition to working on a book about Korean youth culture and technology). I have been trying to get some Open Source developers from Korea (and part of kldp.org) to help on Inkscape, so I encourage your participation much!
On opensource, I'm leading document translation projects (apache httpd, linux gazette) and have made minor patches (on i18n). I can speak C++, but I'm mainly using C, Java, Perl, Python. = resume ends =
Cool, I'm good friends with Shawn (SoonsonKwon), head of KLDP.org. Great!
I plan to make many presentation format (PDF, swf, SVG, XSL-FO, CSS for print, ...) creation/convert tool/library. There are many good opensource tools/libraries. But I'm concerned about i18n (especially CJK) and (from the latest spec) new feature support. Then I'll evaluate them each, and choose one or start from scratch.
Cool, I think you should get more specific in your proposal to adding specific types for conversion (import/export). Also, your interest in il8n is of importance in implementing these converters.
I learned Google's offer from the new, and found that Inkscape's vector format import/export project and my goal overlap. Please let me know what I can do for Inkscape, within summer or without just summer limit.
Sounds good...please post your comments on our wiki that Bryce mentioned in a previous email. Hop onto our chat channel as well #inkscape on irc.freenode.net to discuss this topic in more detail.
Jon
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 00:31 +0900, Jeon Jeongho wrote:
Whoa...cool...Seoul National is great and so is Naver! But are you good at kart.nexon.com ? I have done work for a Korean company http://www.gopetslive.com and have lectured around Seoul (in addition to working on a book about Korean youth culture and technology). I have been trying to get some Open Source developers from Korea (and part of kldp.org) to help on Inkscape, so I encourage your participation much!
Cool, I'm good friends with Shawn (SoonsonKwon), head of KLDP.org. Great!
Nice to meet you~ :-)
I plan to make many presentation format (PDF, swf, SVG, XSL-FO, CSS for print, ...) creation/convert tool/library. There are many good opensource tools/libraries. But I'm concerned about i18n (especially CJK) and (from the latest spec) new feature support. Then I'll evaluate them each, and choose one or start from scratch.
Cool, I think you should get more specific in your proposal to adding specific types for conversion (import/export). Also, your interest in il8n is of importance in implementing these converters.
I learned Google's offer from the new, and found that Inkscape's vector format import/export project and my goal overlap. Please let me know what I can do for Inkscape, within summer or without just summer limit.
Sounds good...please post your comments on our wiki that Bryce mentioned in a previous email. Hop onto our chat channel as well #inkscape on irc.freenode.net to discuss this topic in more detail.
I browsed inkscape's feature requests, then found many wanted formats.
* PDF! * TeX (I don't figure out this request exactly. literal postscript with \special command, METAFONT, or ...?) * DXF (AutoCAD, there are a few opensource utilities) * CorelDraw (I can't find this file format spec on internet.) * EMF & (lesser powerful) WMF (Windows platform, there are a few opensource utilities) * SWF (Flash, there are tons of opensource utilities) * OpenOffice * gimp * ... more supports to existing formats
I exclude PDF due to planned Cairoification (PDF support is a free lunch?). Then I choose DXF (w/o 3D), EMF(WMF), basic SWF (first frame only) import/export during summer. I assume that these format supports are not strongly-coupled with main inkscape project, then project schedule suffers a little damage even if things turn bad. I want to support full animated SWF along with inkscape's animation support (milestone 17, 20).
Any comments or suggests?
+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Jeon, Jeong ho | http://www.myscan.org/~mahajjh/ | | electrical engineering, | mahajjh@...834... | | seoul national univ. | si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes :-) +-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+

On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 03:53 +0900, Jeon Jeongho wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 00:31 +0900, Jeon Jeongho wrote:
Whoa...cool...Seoul National is great and so is Naver! But are you good at kart.nexon.com ? I have done work for a Korean company http://www.gopetslive.com and have lectured around Seoul (in addition to working on a book about Korean youth culture and technology). I have been trying to get some Open Source developers from Korea (and part of kldp.org) to help on Inkscape, so I encourage your participation much!
Cool, I'm good friends with Shawn (SoonsonKwon), head of KLDP.org. Great!
Nice to meet you~ :-)
I plan to make many presentation format (PDF, swf, SVG, XSL-FO, CSS for print, ...) creation/convert tool/library. There are many good opensource tools/libraries. But I'm concerned about i18n (especially CJK) and (from the latest spec) new feature support. Then I'll evaluate them each, and choose one or start from scratch.
Cool, I think you should get more specific in your proposal to adding specific types for conversion (import/export). Also, your interest in il8n is of importance in implementing these converters.
I learned Google's offer from the new, and found that Inkscape's vector format import/export project and my goal overlap. Please let me know what I can do for Inkscape, within summer or without just summer limit.
Sounds good...please post your comments on our wiki that Bryce mentioned in a previous email. Hop onto our chat channel as well #inkscape on irc.freenode.net to discuss this topic in more detail.
I browsed inkscape's feature requests, then found many wanted formats.
- PDF!
- TeX (I don't figure out this request exactly. literal postscript with \special command, METAFONT, or ...?)
As in LaTeX: http://www.latex-project.org/ This would be very useful.
- DXF (AutoCAD, there are a few opensource utilities)
- CorelDraw (I can't find this file format spec on internet.)
Yeah, I don't know how important this is...but many people I guess still use it. Seems that CorelDraw can open EPS, so we kinda support it in a roundabout way.
- EMF & (lesser powerful) WMF (Windows platform, there are a few opensource utilities)
Yeah, supporting these is a must...
- SWF (Flash, there are tons of opensource utilities)
Import and Export of Flash would be great. There is a patch in the patchtracker for some level of Flash support. I don't know why it is not applied.
- OpenOffice
Yeah, I think that supporting the new Oo.o OpenDocument format is a pretty high priority.
- gimp
Exporting to XCF? I'm not fully sure what this would entail. Gimp can import/export SVG...soooo....
- ... more supports to existing formats
I think our support for Adobe Illustrator formats previous to their use of PDF 1.4 as their standard format is a real high priority. Also, some support needs to be checked out in the current importers/exporters. Some of them are pipes to small little commandline programs.
I think making some form of chart to understand our strengths and weaknesses on import/export on the wiki might be in order ;)
I exclude PDF due to planned Cairoification (PDF support is a free lunch?). Then I choose DXF (w/o 3D), EMF(WMF), basic SWF (first frame only) import/export during summer. I assume that these format supports are not strongly-coupled with main inkscape project, then project schedule suffers a little damage even if things turn bad.
Any development would be appreciated...
I want to support full animated SWF along with inkscape's animation support (milestone 17, 20).
That would be excellent!
Any comments or suggests?
Yeah, I think this sounds like a good list.
+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Jeon, Jeong ho | http://www.myscan.org/~mahajjh/ | | electrical engineering, | mahajjh@...834... | | seoul national univ. | si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes :-) +-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+
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On 6/13/05, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote:
- DXF (AutoCAD, there are a few opensource utilities)
- CorelDraw (I can't find this file format spec on internet.)
Yeah, I don't know how important this is...but many people I guess still use it.
Here is a hint :) A while ago I worked in a firm that specializes on CAD/CAM/CAE solutions. Our designer never really used DXF import in Illustrator. EPS was always enough for him. But several engineers used AutioCAD - DXF - Corel Draw - DXF - AutoCAD routine, when they wanted to "beautify" their designs.
- SWF (Flash, there are tons of opensource utilities)
Import and Export of Flash would be great. There is a patch in the patchtracker for some level of Flash support. I don't know why it is not applied.
By same reason gtkmmfication isn't done yet? :)
- gimp
Exporting to XCF? I'm not fully sure what this would entail. Gimp can import/export SVG...soooo....
And even copy/paste between applications in v2.3.1., though I didn't manage to however hard I tried :)
Alexandre

Quoting Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
- SWF (Flash, there are tons of opensource utilities)
Import and Export of Flash would be great. There is a patch in
the
patchtracker for some level of Flash support. I don't know why
it is not
applied.
By same reason gtkmmfication isn't done yet? :)
Sort of. If I remember correctly, we decided we prefered it as an external extension rather than something compiled into Inkscape itself (so we could avoid yet another binary dependency).
So we still need someone to rework it along those lines...
-mental

On 6/14/05, mental@...3... <mental@...3...> wrote:
Sort of. If I remember correctly, we decided we prefered it as an external extension rather than something compiled into Inkscape itself (so we could avoid yet another binary dependency).
As for me, I would not mind at all if it is internal. This format is important enough fort an internal handler. The reason that patch is not taken care of is that we considered spalah.sf.net to be more developed and wanted to try to make it an external extension for Inkscape. The author of Spalah started working on that (http://spalah.sourceforge.net/?p=19) but it seems like that work has stalled.
I think it's an important thing to have done, so if there is anyone willing to further this it would be excellent. You'd need to examine spalah's current state, contact its author, and develop it from there eventually including it into Inkscape distribution. Any takers?
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Bryce Harrington
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bulia byak
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Jeon Jeongho
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Jon Phillips