Hi,
With lots of additions overal last year menus become quite busy.
A couple of observations.
1. We have both "Effects - Images" and "Effects - Raster" menus. Do we keep "Images" submenu for any possible effect not altering contents of raster images or just embedding/disembedding? If it's emdedding related only, should we probably then rename submenu?
btw, I'm not really sure that the current way of dealing with embedding/exporting raster files in SVG document really optimal. See, opening an arbitrary file I can't tell if an image used there is embedded or not without looking into source code.There's no indicator to tell that. An improved hint in status bar could probably be the first step in the right, IMO, direction. Something like "Embedded image A x B size in layer N" and "External image A x B size in layer N". What do you think?
2. Text case altering commands live in "Effects - Text". Should it probably belong to "Text" menu? As user of applications like Scribus or OpenOffice.org (sorry, Scribus guys :)) I don't perceive those as effects --- this is rather altering of text that its look'n'feel. Same goes for "Replace text..." --- to me it rather belongs to "Edit" or "Text" menu, not speaking about some kind of clash with "Edit - Find...".
Comments? :)
Alexandre
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
btw, I'm not really sure that the current way of dealing with embedding/exporting raster files in SVG document really optimal. See, opening an arbitrary file I can't tell if an image used there is embedded or not without looking into source code.There's no indicator to tell that. An improved hint in status bar could probably be the first step in the right, IMO, direction. Something like "Embedded image A x B size in layer N" and "External image A x B size in layer N". What do you think?
Can you elaborate a little? For me, when I open an svg in inkscape which has an imported image, the status bar does tell me where it is. For a non-embedded image the message is already "Image # x #: /home/example/picture.jpg in layer LayerName" or for an embedded image it's "Image # x #: embedded in layer LayerName". So, as far as I can tell, it gives the status bar messages you're looking for unless you are looking for the specific wording of "External image" for the embedded ones.
-Josh
On 8/26/07, Josh Andler wrote:
Can you elaborate a little? For me, when I open an svg in inkscape which has an imported image, the status bar does tell me where it is. For a non-embedded image the message is already "Image # x #: /home/example/picture.jpg in layer LayerName" or for an embedded image it's "Image # x #: embedded in layer LayerName".
It does say "...embedded in..." -- you are absolutely right and I was wrong :) But it doesn't show path, until you go to XML editor :) Here is an attach.
Alexandre
And here's mine... why is this different for us? Is your image in the same directory as the SVG or something and it's showing a relative URI (which would make sense then)? Mine is in a different directory.
-Josh
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On 8/26/07, Josh Andler wrote:
Can you elaborate a little? For me, when I open an svg in inkscape which has an imported image, the status bar does tell me where it is. For a non-embedded image the message is already "Image # x #: /home/example/picture.jpg in layer LayerName" or for an embedded image it's "Image # x #: embedded in layer LayerName".
It does say "...embedded in..." -- you are absolutely right and I was wrong :) But it doesn't show path, until you go to XML editor :) Here is an attach.
Alexandre
It does not show path because the image is in the current dir. Otherwise the path will be shown.
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:01 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
- Text case altering commands live in "Effects - Text". Should it
probably belong to "Text" menu? As user of applications like Scribus or OpenOffice.org (sorry, Scribus guys :)) I don't perceive those as effects --- this is rather altering of text that its look'n'feel. Same goes for "Replace text..." --- to me it rather belongs to "Edit" or "Text" menu, not speaking about some kind of clash with "Edit - Find...".
This would require a little bit of code because the only automatically generated menu (for effects) is the one under the Effects tab. I'd be interested in what others though, is this something we should think about?
--Ted
On 9/2/07, Ted Gould <ted@...11...> wrote:
This would require a little bit of code because the only automatically generated menu (for effects) is the one under the Effects tab. I'd be interested in what others though, is this something we should think about?
Actually this is already done for Help menu commands:
In an extension's INX file, you can specify <effects-menu hidden="yes"/> to hide that extension from the Effects menu. However, such a "hidden" extension can still be assigned a keyboard shortcut (by using its id as an "action" in your ~/.inkscape/keys/default.xml).
The initial reason for collecting all extensions in one menu was because they were all equally clumsy and foreign, much unlike regular commands. Now that this is less and less the case, we can indeed think about sorting them out into different menus and removing the Effects menu, much as we removed the Dialogs menu several versions back. Except that we still need a place for the "Run last effect" command somewhere.
Anyway, even if we don't eliminate the menu, I (again) propose to rename it to Extensions. The word "effects" is terribly confusing now that we have SVG filter effects and Live Path effects!
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