On a later build the problem of the switched mirror buttons was solved -- btw, arrow buttons are better than the old triangles separated by a dot line. they are intuitive ..by default -> arrows means directions.

Also rotate with 90 degrees buttons which are arrows too now - are the best options here -> they're so explicit much more than 2 triangles with 90 degrees in between.

Button for creating spirals on toolbar are also a bad choice ( in the 15 May build ) it's hard to read it's icon and message for a newcomer to Inkscape.

Buttons for node operations are also very unintuitive - old blue buttons was better from an usability point of view - they had a better readability.

Regarding the fight between Fancy AND Usable ...Usable should win. Ever.

2009/5/15 Alvin Penner <penner@...1856...>:

here's a snapshot of the Windows help menu

http://www.nabble.com/file/p23557319/Win32_21345.PNG Win32_21345.PNG

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Nemes Ioan Sorin wrote:

On a later build the problem of the switched mirror buttons was solved -- btw, arrow buttons are better than the old triangles separated by a dot line. they are intuitive ..by default -> arrows means directions.

Also rotate with 90 degrees buttons which are arrows too now - are the best options here -> they're so explicit much more than 2 triangles with 90 degrees in between.

Button for creating spirals on toolbar are also a bad choice ( in the 15 May build ) it's hard to read it's icon and message for a newcomer to Inkscape.

Buttons for node operations are also very unintuitive - old blue buttons was better from an usability point of view - they had a better readability.

Regarding the fight between Fancy AND Usable ...Usable should win. Ever.

Thanks for the comments, they'll help me a great deal. I hope to have all Tango-related issues resolved at the end of the weekend. I was slightly out of circuit for the past few days because of a lot of piled up things at school. If there are any unresolved things, I or someone else can revert back to hicolor (it's a matter of changing the SUBDIRS directive in share/icons/Makefile.am, and doing s/tango/hicolor/ on configure.ac).

Now when it comes to the issues outlined on the wiki: 1. Application Overriding System: actually the icons.svg case seems wrong to me. The arrow icons don't look like being pulled from the high-contrast theme. 2. The two other issues: a signal handler for the style-set signal is missing, should be simple to add.

Regards, Krzysztof Kosiński

On May 20, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:

Now when it comes to the issues outlined on the wiki:

1. Application Overriding System: actually the icons.svg case seems

wrong to me. The arrow icons don't look like being pulled from the high- contrast theme.

Yes... they are not being pulled from the high-contrast... but they are also not being pulled from inkscape.

What you are seeing is that the high-contrast theme does not have those specific icons. Inkscape has its own "triangles with arrows and lines" icons registered as defaults... but those are not showing up like in the first case.

What is happening instead is that the high-contrast theme is the user's current default, but is missing those specific icons. GTK+ then goes through the fallback chain and discovers versions hiding in the system default "hicolor" theme (the large orange arrows).

So the icons brought in by Inkscape itself should be the last choice, and only appear when all else fails.