6:45 a.m.
We can tackle this on several fronts:
1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would
accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn Blender 3D.
2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented
community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape.
4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics professionals
5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some common
graphics tasks like:
-How to make elements like vines/flourishes
-How to use Inkscape for package design
-How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
-How to use Inkscape for product design
-Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
-Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
-etc.
6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these things
aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to
supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for production artists.
I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using Blender 3D
as my Open Source video production software of choice.
My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my graphics and
materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps when they
get time.
Thoughts?
-C
On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400...> wrote:
We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming
site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad
revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who
would do it, I'm not sure!
AV
On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme:
>
> www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
>
> Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need for
> tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
>
> This is probably something we should put together for the website.
> Something coherent for users.
>
> But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A competition?
> Scouting for talent?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>
>
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>
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9:12 p.m.
Hi C,
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
We can tackle this on several fronts:
1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would
accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn Blender 3D.
2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented
community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape.
4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics professionals
5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some common
graphics tasks like:
-How to make elements like vines/flourishes
-How to use Inkscape for package design
-How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
-How to use Inkscape for product design
-Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
-Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
-etc.
6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these things
aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to
supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for production artists.
I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using Blender 3D
as my Open Source video production software of choice.
My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my graphics and
materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps when they
get time.
Thoughts?
This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now I think it's
important that people actually start writing tutorials because "code talks;
bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can start working
before that.
FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a "Back to my
homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the film "Back to the
Future":
http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but acknowledge that it
may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners of the Back to
the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of the tutorial
itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la lolcats) but
I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to do.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
-C
On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400...>
wrote:
> We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming
> site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad
> revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who
> would do it, I'm not sure!
>
> AV
>
> On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
> > Dear developers,
> >
> > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme:
> >
> > www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
> >
> > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need for
> > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
> >
> > This is probably something we should put together for the website.
> > Something coherent for users.
> >
> > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A competition?
> > Scouting for talent?
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inkscape-devel mailing list
> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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12:15 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish.
From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by-step
videos
more than written ones.
Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download, install, and
use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own).
Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without
installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's core
functionality.
I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a feature, and
the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to install an
extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing an
"official" video on it.
What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short videos,
no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a feature (unless
the feature requires more).
Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape Logo and
tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet bounces in,
looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against the white wall of
the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into the Inkscape logo. The
words "draw freely" will then be drawn in quickly as if by invisible pen
(with suitably sketchy sound effect), and then fade to white. The effect
would be a simple, clean and effective piece of branding that is memorable,
but doesn't make the viewers crazy if they are watching 30 in a row. :)
The white would fade directly into a timelapse of the clip that will be
shown overlaid with the title of the clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That
fades to the actual screencapture, with captioned information. Once the
screencapture video is done, the video fades to white background again with
a small Inkscape logo with inkscape.org url, and small-print "This video is
distributed under the GPL licence" etc.
Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds like
pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and sammich
a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between.
Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials available
via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified, and maintained as
any other piece of the project might be.
More soon.
-C
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...2985...> wrote:
Hi C,
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> We can tackle this on several fronts:
>
> 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would
> accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn Blender
3D.
>
> 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
>
> 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented
> community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape.
>
> 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics
professionals
>
> 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some common
> graphics tasks like:
>
> -How to make elements like vines/flourishes
>
> -How to use Inkscape for package design
>
> -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
>
> -How to use Inkscape for product design
>
> -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
>
> -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
>
> -etc.
>
> 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these things
> aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to
> supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for production
artists.
>
> I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using Blender
3D
> as my Open Source video production software of choice.
>
> My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my graphics and
> materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps when they
> get time.
>
> Thoughts?
>
This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now I think it's
important that people actually start writing tutorials because "code talks;
bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can start
working
before that.
FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a "Back to my
homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the film "Back to
the
Future":
http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but acknowledge that
it
may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners of the Back
to
the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of the tutorial
itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la lolcats)
but
I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to do.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> -C
>
> On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400...>
wrote:
>
> > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming
> > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad
> > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who
> > would do it, I'm not sure!
> >
> > AV
> >
> > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme:
> > >
> > > www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
> > >
> > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need
for
> > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
> > >
> > > This is probably something we should put together for the website.
> > > Something coherent for users.
> > >
> > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A
competition?
> > > Scouting for talent?
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > >
> > >
> >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Inkscape-devel mailing list
> > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
> >
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that cannot be fixed.
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12:29 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
Hi C,
FWIW, I would certainly like to see those videos come to life :)
I know there are already lots and lots of Inkscape videos on youtube,
and even complete series.
But if we had something official, that is explicitly published by the
project, has Inkscape's trademarks (the logo is CC-By-SA), is linked
from our sites, and has been reviewed by the developers (or a larger
group of users) for correctness (there are also many low-quality videos
out there), that would be really cool and helpful.
If they are short, and don't need translation (we could have the menu
item names you click on translated in subtitles), that would be a big plus.
Thank you for your ideas, and willingness to make them true :),
Regards,
Maren
Am 26.08.2015 um 17:15 schrieb C R:
Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish.
From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by-step
videos more than written ones.
Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download, install, and
use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own).
Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without
installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's core
functionality.
I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a feature,
and the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to install an
extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing an
"official" video on it.
What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short
videos, no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a
feature (unless the feature requires more).
Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape Logo and
tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet bounces
in, looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against the white
wall of the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into the Inkscape
logo. The words "draw freely" will then be drawn in quickly as if by
invisible pen (with suitably sketchy sound effect), and then fade to
white. The effect would be a simple, clean and effective piece of
branding that is memorable, but doesn't make the viewers crazy if they
are watching 30 in a row. :) The white would fade directly into a
timelapse of the clip that will be shown overlaid with the title of the
clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That fades to the actual screencapture,
with captioned information. Once the screencapture video is done, the
video fades to white background again with a small Inkscape logo with
inkscape.org <http://inkscape.org> url, and small-print "This video is
distributed under the GPL licence" etc.
Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds like
pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and
sammich a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between.
Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials
available via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified, and
maintained as any other piece of the project might be.
More soon.
-C
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...2985...
<mailto:shlomif@...2985...>> wrote:
Hi C,
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
C R <cajhne@...400... <mailto:cajhne@...400...>> wrote:
> We can tackle this on several fronts:
>
> 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would
> accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn
Blender 3D.
>
> 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
>
> 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented
> community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape.
>
> 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics
professionals
>
> 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some
common
> graphics tasks like:
>
> -How to make elements like vines/flourishes
>
> -How to use Inkscape for package design
>
> -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
>
> -How to use Inkscape for product design
>
> -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
>
> -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
>
> -etc.
>
> 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these
things
> aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to
> supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for
production artists.
>
> I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using
Blender 3D
> as my Open Source video production software of choice.
>
> My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my
graphics and
> materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps
when they
> get time.
>
> Thoughts?
>
This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now I
think it's
important that people actually start writing tutorials because "code
talks;
bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can start
working
before that.
FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a
"Back to my
homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the film
"Back to the
Future":
http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but
acknowledge that it
may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners of the
Back to
the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of the
tutorial
itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la
lolcats) but
I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to do.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> -C
>
> On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400...
<mailto:valavanisalex@...400...>> wrote:
>
> > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming
> > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad
> > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who
> > would do it, I'm not sure!
> >
> > AV
> >
> > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...
<mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote:
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme:
> > >
> > > www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
<http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape>
> > >
> > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big
need for
> > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
> > >
> > > This is probably something we should put together for the website.
> > > Something coherent for users.
> > >
> > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A
competition?
> > > Scouting for talent?
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > >
> > >
> >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Inkscape-devel mailing list
> > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
<mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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3:15 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
Hi I made a pair of videos a bit more "produced" than usual and release
it with source code of blender, synfig, inkscape...
The link to the souces are in the video info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwV0DHvA-OE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFakiI5f0-Y
All the best, Jabier.
El mié, 26-08-2015 a las 17:29 +0200, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Hi C,
FWIW, I would certainly like to see those videos come to life :)
I know there are already lots and lots of Inkscape videos on youtube,
and even complete series.
But if we had something official, that is explicitly published by the
project, has Inkscape's trademarks (the logo is CC-By-SA), is linked
from our sites, and has been reviewed by the developers (or a larger
group of users) for correctness (there are also many low-quality
videos
out there), that would be really cool and helpful.
If they are short, and don't need translation (we could have the menu
item names you click on translated in subtitles), that would be a big
plus.
Thank you for your ideas, and willingness to make them true :),
Regards,
Maren
Am 26.08.2015 um 17:15 schrieb C R:
> Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish.
>
> From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by
> -step
> videos more than written ones.
> Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download,
> install, and
> use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own).
> Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without
> installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's
> core
> functionality.
> I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a
> feature,
> and the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to
> install an
> extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing
> an
> "official" video on it.
>
> What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short
> videos, no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a
> feature (unless the feature requires more).
>
> Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape
> Logo and
> tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet
> bounces
> in, looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against the
> white
> wall of the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into the
> Inkscape
> logo. The words "draw freely" will then be drawn in quickly as if
> by
> invisible pen (with suitably sketchy sound effect), and then fade
> to
> white. The effect would be a simple, clean and effective piece of
> branding that is memorable, but doesn't make the viewers crazy if
> they
> are watching 30 in a row. :) The white would fade directly into a
> timelapse of the clip that will be shown overlaid with the title of
> the
> clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That fades to the actual
> screencapture,
> with captioned information. Once the screencapture video is done,
> the
> video fades to white background again with a small Inkscape logo
> with
> inkscape.org <http://inkscape.org> url, and small-print "This video
> is
> distributed under the GPL licence" etc.
>
> Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds
> like
> pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and
> sammich a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between.
>
> Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials
> available via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified,
> and
> maintained as any other piece of the project might be.
>
> More soon.
>
> -C
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <
> shlomif@...2985...
> <mailto:shlomif@...2985...>> wrote:
>
> Hi C,
>
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
> C R <cajhne@...400... <mailto:cajhne@...400...>> wrote:
>
> > We can tackle this on several fronts:
> >
> > 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos
> would
> > accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to
> learn
> Blender 3D.
> >
> > 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
> >
> > 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our
> talented
> > community of artists working on professional projects with
> Inkscape.
> >
> > 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics
> professionals
> >
> > 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make
> some
> common
> > graphics tasks like:
> >
> > -How to make elements like vines/flourishes
> >
> > -How to use Inkscape for package design
> >
> > -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
> >
> > -How to use Inkscape for product design
> >
> > -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
> >
> > -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
> >
> > -etc.
> >
> > 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of
> these
> things
> > aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them
> to
> > supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for
> production artists.
> >
> > I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of
> using
> Blender 3D
> > as my Open Source video production software of choice.
> >
> > My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my
> graphics and
> > materials to the team so others can help by filling in the
> gaps
> when they
> > get time.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now
> I
> think it's
> important that people actually start writing tutorials because
> "code
> talks;
> bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can
> start
> working
> before that.
>
> FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a
> "Back to my
> homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the
> film
> "Back to the
> Future":
>
> http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
>
> I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but
> acknowledge that it
> may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners
> of the
> Back to
> the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of
> the
> tutorial
> itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
>
> I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la
> lolcats) but
> I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to
> do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
>
> > -C
> >
> > On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <
> valavanisalex@...400...
> <mailto:valavanisalex@...400...>> wrote:
> >
> > > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a
> streaming
> > > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user
> community, the ad
> > > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As
> for who
> > > would do it, I'm not sure!
> > >
> > > AV
> > >
> > > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <
> doctormo@...400...
> <mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote:
> > > > Dear developers,
> > > >
> > > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a
> theme:
> > > >
> > > >
> www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
> <
> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape>
> > > >
> > > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a
big
> need for
> > > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
> > > >
> > > > This is probably something we should put together for the
> website.
> > > > Something coherent for users.
> > > >
> > > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use.
> A
> competition?
> > > > Scouting for talent?
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Hi CR,
Please make all the video material (source etc) available and script any
of the bits that construct the video into a whole.
An animation would be good.
I'm going to offer the services of my wife for voice work, who does
these kinds of videos for Harvard and I think a very accessible accent.
So, it looks like what we need are some parts. One is the intro and
outro animations which CR will take care of. The next is some simple
music to use, there's lots of good CC-BY-SA works out there for it but
we should use the same music for all videos. And the third slice is the
scripts list, a list of progressively more complex tasks to make videos
for.
Does the council currently control an inkscape youtube channel?
Martin,
On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:15 +0100, C R wrote:
Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish.
From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by-step
videos more than written ones.
Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download, install,
and use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own).
Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without
installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's core
functionality.
I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a feature,
and the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to install
an extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing
an "official" video on it.
What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short
videos, no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a
feature (unless the feature requires more).
Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape Logo
and tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet
bounces in, looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against
the white wall of the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into
the Inkscape logo. The words "draw freely" will then be drawn in
quickly as if by invisible pen (with suitably sketchy sound effect),
and then fade to white. The effect would be a simple, clean and
effective piece of branding that is memorable, but doesn't make the
viewers crazy if they are watching 30 in a row. :) The white would
fade directly into a timelapse of the clip that will be shown overlaid
with the title of the clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That fades to the
actual screencapture, with captioned information. Once the
screencapture video is done, the video fades to white background again
with a small Inkscape logo with inkscape.org url, and small-print
"This video is distributed under the GPL licence" etc.
Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds like
pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and
sammich a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between.
Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials
available via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified, and
maintained as any other piece of the project might be.
More soon.
-C
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...2985...>
wrote:
Hi C,
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> We can tackle this on several fronts:
>
> 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These
videos would
> accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to
learn Blender 3D.
>
> 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
>
> 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our
talented
> community of artists working on professional projects with
Inkscape.
>
> 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics
professionals
>
> 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make
some common
> graphics tasks like:
>
> -How to make elements like vines/flourishes
>
> -How to use Inkscape for package design
>
> -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
>
> -How to use Inkscape for product design
>
> -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
>
> -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
>
> -etc.
>
> 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of
these things
> aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use
them to
> supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for
production artists.
>
> I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of
using Blender 3D
> as my Open Source video production software of choice.
>
> My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my
graphics and
> materials to the team so others can help by filling in the
gaps when they
> get time.
>
> Thoughts?
>
This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now
I think it's
important that people actually start writing tutorials because
"code talks;
bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can
start working
before that.
FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared
a "Back to my
homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the
film "Back to the
Future":
http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but
acknowledge that it
may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners
of the Back to
the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of
the tutorial
itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a
la lolcats) but
I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to
do.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> -C
>
> On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis"
<valavanisalex@...400...> wrote:
>
> > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a
streaming
> > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user
community, the ad
> > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As
for who
> > would do it, I'm not sure!
> >
> > AV
> >
> > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens
<doctormo@...400...> wrote:
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a
theme:
> > >
> > >
www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
> > >
> > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a
big
need for
> > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
> > >
> > > This is probably something we should put together for
the website.
> > > Something coherent for users.
> > >
> > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use.
A competition?
> > > Scouting for talent?
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > >
> > >
> >
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New subject: Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
This sounds wonderful. I just want to remark that a "making of" and a
more detailed tutorial style video of (a) the production of the trailer
and (b) the overall production (screen capture, cut etc.) of a tutorial
would make up a great learning resource as well. This is not only about
inkscape anymore, but it would show how all theses open source tools
including inkscape work together to produce something great.
Maybe you can take this into account and capture some of the process.
Usually, one would have to do the process at least twice, one to figure
everything out and do the "real thing" (e.g. production of the trailer)
and one for the final capture for the tutorial I describe. But if you
produce material in your first run, it will be easier to script and
arrange the second one.
Just my €0,02.
Best regards
Chris
Am 26.08.2015 um 17:15 schrieb C R:
Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish.
>From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by-step videos
more than written ones.
Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download, install, and
use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own).
Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without
installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's core
functionality.
I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a feature, and
the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to install an
extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing an
"official" video on it.
What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short videos,
no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a feature (unless
the feature requires more).
Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape Logo and
tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet bounces in,
looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against the white wall of
the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into the Inkscape logo. The
words "draw freely" will then be drawn in quickly as if by invisible pen
(with suitably sketchy sound effect), and then fade to white. The effect
would be a simple, clean and effective piece of branding that is memorable,
but doesn't make the viewers crazy if they are watching 30 in a row. :)
The white would fade directly into a timelapse of the clip that will be
shown overlaid with the title of the clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That
fades to the actual screencapture, with captioned information. Once the
screencapture video is done, the video fades to white background again with
a small Inkscape logo with inkscape.org url, and small-print "This video is
distributed under the GPL licence" etc.
Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds like
pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and sammich
a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between.
Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials available
via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified, and maintained as
any other piece of the project might be.
More soon.
-C
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...2985...> wrote:
> Hi C,
>
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100
> C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
>
>> We can tackle this on several fronts:
>>
>> 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would
>> accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn Blender
> 3D.
>>
>> 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface
>>
>> 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented
>> community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape.
>>
>> 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics
> professionals
>>
>> 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some common
>> graphics tasks like:
>>
>> -How to make elements like vines/flourishes
>>
>> -How to use Inkscape for package design
>>
>> -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates
>>
>> -How to use Inkscape for product design
>>
>> -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates
>>
>> -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums.
>>
>> -etc.
>>
>> 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these things
>> aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to
>> supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for production
> artists.
>>
>> I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using Blender
> 3D
>> as my Open Source video production software of choice.
>>
>> My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my graphics and
>> materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps when they
>> get time.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now I think it's
> important that people actually start writing tutorials because "code talks;
> bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can start
> working
> before that.
>
> FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a "Back to my
> homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the film "Back to
> the
> Future":
>
> http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/
>
> I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but acknowledge that
> it
> may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners of the Back
> to
> the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of the tutorial
> itself, but I'm open to suggestions.
>
> I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la lolcats)
> but
> I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
>
>> -C
>>
>> On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis"
<valavanisalex@...400...>
> wrote:
>>
>>> We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming
>>> site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad
>>> revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who
>>> would do it, I'm not sure!
>>>
>>> AV
>>>
>>> On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
>>>> Dear developers,
>>>>
>>>> I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme:
>>>>
>>>> www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape
>>>>
>>>> Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big
need for
>>>> tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials.
>>>>
>>>> This is probably something we should put together for the website.
>>>> Something coherent for users.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A
> competition?
>>>> Scouting for talent?
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
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>>>> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>>>>
>>>
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