RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
Tip radius is the distance from the center to the farthest handle. Base radius is the same for closest handle. Can you suggest better terms?
They are OK, but then I can't see why it's called "sharpness". (If someone starts to move the inner handle along a circle, he will possibly be surprised to see the resulting objects have the same "sharpness".)
Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular positions of handles - skewed tips are sharper than straight ones with the same radii. However the label must be one word, maximum two, as long explanations won't fit. Please feel free to propose a better one-word term than "sharpness".
I see it now. What I tried was to raise only 1 item of a group (after Ctrl+clicking it), and Inkscape did not raise this item above an ungroupped object -- but this was a bad thing to test with, because Inkscape does not give this message then.
There's no error message because it's not an error - it does in fact moves the selected object within its group. So this may be not what you expected, but it's a successful operation from Inkscape viewpoint, and we don't report on successes (with some exceptions, such as "Document saved.").
The point I was trying to make with all this is that we are talking about "different groups or layers", but those objects do not both have to be in a group, and we have only 1 layer in Inkscape right now. So if you take a root-level, ungroupped object and try to group it with an already groupped single item, then it's strange to receive this message telling that they are from a different group (one of them is ungroupped) or layer (there's no layer).
Right, more correct would be "You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers, or grouped objects together with ungrouped ones", but IMHO it's too wordy, and the part after comma adds nothing really useful for the user, it's kinda implied.
What do others think?
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Hi Guys, I want to do some stippling with Inkscape. Ie. laying down lots of small black (ink) dots to build up detail in a picture. Now I can make an appropriate size dot and copy it using Ctrl+C but what about laying it down? Using Ctrl+V with my left hand and moving the mouse with my right hand is really clunky and slow. Can the Ctrl+V combination be re-assigned, briefly, to the left mouse button? This would make the technique one handed and quite workable I think. If so, how do I do it?
Some time ago someone mentioned an object "hose". This also sounds as if it might do the job. Is this a reality or a pipedream?
fingers crossed, vellum.
I proposed this as this RFE. Please add thoughts to that request:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=908792&grou...
I think this would be totally useful and totally implementable once we get the clone stuff figured out. Illustrator has something similar.
Jon
On Wed, 2000-03-29 at 21:32, vellum wrote:
Hi Guys, I want to do some stippling with Inkscape. Ie. laying down lots of small black (ink) dots to build up detail in a picture. Now I can make an appropriate size dot and copy it using Ctrl+C but what about laying it down? Using Ctrl+V with my left hand and moving the mouse with my right hand is really clunky and slow. Can the Ctrl+V combination be re-assigned, briefly, to the left mouse button? This would make the technique one handed and quite workable I think. If so, how do I do it?
Some time ago someone mentioned an object "hose". This also sounds as if it might do the job. Is this a reality or a pipedream?
fingers crossed, vellum.
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OK. Your post must be what I remembered.
What about a work-around for the moment? Any thoughts on key reassignment?
vellum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Phillips" <jon@...15...> To: "vellum" <vellum@...68...> Cc: "inkscape" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Stippling with Inkscape
I proposed this as this RFE. Please add thoughts to that request:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=908792&grou...
I think this would be totally useful and totally implementable once we get the clone stuff figured out. Illustrator has something similar.
Jon
On Wed, 2000-03-29 at 21:32, vellum wrote:
Hi Guys, I want to do some stippling with Inkscape. Ie. laying down lots of small black (ink) dots to build up detail in a picture. Now I can make an appropriate size dot and copy it using Ctrl+C but what about laying it
down?
Using Ctrl+V with my left hand and moving the mouse with my right hand
is
really clunky and slow. Can the Ctrl+V combination be re-assigned,
briefly,
to the left mouse button? This would make the technique one handed and
quite
workable I think. If so, how do I do it?
Some time ago someone mentioned an object "hose". This also sounds as if
it
might do the job. Is this a reality or a pipedream?
fingers crossed, vellum.
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vellum wrote:
OK. Your post must be what I remembered.
What about a work-around for the moment? Any thoughts on key reassignment?
Can't you just hold down spacebar?
incidently our renderer doesn't deal with thousands of objects well - for clones we perhaps need to render the object to a surface and bitblt that around.
njh
Nathan wrote,
Can't you just hold down spacebar?
incidently our renderer doesn't deal with thousands of objects well - for clones we perhaps need to render the object to a surface and bitblt that around.
njh
Holding down the spacebar produces caterpillar trails of objects. Very spectacular and interesting but almost uncontrollable as a way to lay dots. Also I crashed several times when the object numbers got up to a couple of thousand.
However, I have found a way.
Create object and select. Ctrl+C Then select the magnifying glass. Hold down Ctrl with little finger. Move mouse around with right hand. Tap with left index finger on V.
The result is a controllable way to lay down many objects. Wall1.gif shows early stages of a wall that I am using as a test bed. It has several thousand objects already and has not crashed. However I do notice that redrawing is getting noticeably slow. That is one of the beauties of a wireframe view (if we had it). It reduces redraw time by manyfold.
Using the magnifying glass icon removes the selection handles which otherwise obscure the cloning position.
For the moment a win!
vellum.
"vellum" <vellum@...68...> writes:
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Holding down the spacebar produces caterpillar trails of objects. Very spectacular and interesting but almost uncontrollable as a way to lay dots.
Pressing space is just a way to stamp the object being moved (i.e. produce a copy of it at the current location). So instead of keeping spacebar pressed, just grab the object to duplicate and hit "space" every time you want a copy of it.
Michel.
AAAAAH! Light dawns. Thank you, much better solution.
vellum
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"vellum" <vellum@...68...> writes:
[...]
Holding down the spacebar produces caterpillar trails of objects. Very spectacular and interesting but almost uncontrollable as a way to lay dots.
Pressing space is just a way to stamp the object being moved (i.e. produce a copy of it at the current location). So instead of keeping spacebar pressed, just grab the object to duplicate and hit "space" every time you want a copy of it.
Michel.
Sounds like a good thing to put in one of the tutorials. ;-)
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, vellum wrote:
AAAAAH! Light dawns. Thank you, much better solution.
vellum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Schinz" <Michel.Schinz@...201...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Stippling with Inkscape
"vellum" <vellum@...68...> writes:
[...]
Holding down the spacebar produces caterpillar trails of objects. Very spectacular and interesting but almost uncontrollable as a way to lay dots.
Pressing space is just a way to stamp the object being moved (i.e. produce a copy of it at the current location). So instead of keeping spacebar pressed, just grab the object to duplicate and hit "space" every time you want a copy of it.
Michel.
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Yeah, I'm going to add the tips and tricks page from wiki into the tutorials section this week hopefully before release. Will add the spacebar clone trick.
Jon
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:13, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Sounds like a good thing to put in one of the tutorials. ;-)
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, vellum wrote:
AAAAAH! Light dawns. Thank you, much better solution.
vellum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Schinz" <Michel.Schinz@...201...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Stippling with Inkscape
"vellum" <vellum@...68...> writes:
[...]
Holding down the spacebar produces caterpillar trails of objects. Very spectacular and interesting but almost uncontrollable as a way to lay dots.
Pressing space is just a way to stamp the object being moved (i.e. produce a copy of it at the current location). So instead of keeping spacebar pressed, just grab the object to duplicate and hit "space" every time you want a copy of it.
Michel.
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Jon, might be worth putting in the caterpillar trick as well? They both seem variants of the same effect.
holding down Space bar rather than tapping it.
vellum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Phillips" <jon@...15...> To: "Bryce Harrington" <bryce@...260...> Cc: "vellum" <vellum@...68...>; "inkscape" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Michel Schinz" <Michel.Schinz@...201...> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Stippling with Inkscape
Yeah, I'm going to add the tips and tricks page from wiki into the tutorials section this week hopefully before release. Will add the spacebar clone trick.
Jon
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:13, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Sounds like a good thing to put in one of the tutorials. ;-)
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, vellum wrote:
I created tipsandtricks.svg which is located at share/tutorials/tipsandtricks.svg for anyone that wants to add their tips and tricks. I copied the ones from http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TricksAndTips. Please look over what I added up there and fix grammar, etc
Also, I added content onto the elements tutorial. There still needs to be a final composition image for that tutorial
Also, I added the path icons to the menu. Please look them over, and critique and change. They look pretty good at regular size, but there are complaints that it is too hard to see what operation is happening. I creatd them more as a general template of what should be there for those icons. If you have better ideas, please implement. I've filled in the spaces. What do you all think about the Green that Bulia chose anyway? I think I like it as the secondary color for operations and then the primary buttons are more decorative. That should prolly be written down somewhere.
I'm going to be offline for the rest of the week more than likely--I have to get going on my MFA final stuff (done at UCSD in JUNE).
Happy trails...
Jon
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 14:14, vellum wrote:
Jon, might be worth putting in the caterpillar trick as well? They both seem variants of the same effect.
holding down Space bar rather than tapping it.
vellum
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Phillips" <jon@...15...> To: "Bryce Harrington" <bryce@...260...> Cc: "vellum" <vellum@...68...>; "inkscape" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Michel Schinz" <Michel.Schinz@...201...> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Stippling with Inkscape
Yeah, I'm going to add the tips and tricks page from wiki into the tutorials section this week hopefully before release. Will add the spacebar clone trick.
Jon
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:13, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Sounds like a good thing to put in one of the tutorials. ;-)
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, vellum wrote:
Hi,
They are OK, but then I can't see why it's called "sharpness". (If someone starts to move the inner handle along a circle, he will possibly be surprised to see the resulting objects have the same "sharpness".)
Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular positions of handles. Please feel free to propose a better one-word term than "sharpness".
Maybe "compactness"? See this document: http://www.flaguide.org/tools/math/measures/compactness.htm
Arpad Biro
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