margin when exporting to pdf
Hi all, When I export to PDF, I generally use "area is drawing", (that has now been renamed to "exported object's size" but should be "selected object's size" I believe, or in case nothing is selected "drawing size" or something that current users will recognize). To create a little bit of breathing room for the drawing, I would like to add a little margin to the area of the drawing. Does this make sense to you to add to the export options? "Extra margin: 10 px" or whatever unit.
Cheers, Johan
I agree. Additionally, something like this would be incredibly useful for printing purposes when you export "area is page". If you have objects that bleed over the the edge, you generally want to export a slightly larger PDF to include a few mm over the edge of the page, so it can be trimmed down to size afterwards.
Slightly different use-case, perhaps, but very similar functionality.
It would be quite useful to make it a per-document preference.
I believe the PDF format can explicitly specify "bleed" and "display" regions, or similar. Making sensible use of those feature would seem a good idea, but that said, I've found most printers can work just fine with a slightly larger-than-page PDF.
- Bryan
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Johan Engelen <jbc.engelen@...2592...>wrote:
Hi all, When I export to PDF, I generally use "area is drawing", (that has now been renamed to "exported object's size" but should be "selected object's size" I believe, or in case nothing is selected "drawing size" or something that current users will recognize). To create a little bit of breathing room for the drawing, I would like to add a little margin to the area of the drawing. Does this make sense to you to add to the export options? "Extra margin: 10 px" or whatever unit.
Cheers, Johan
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On 28-10-2012 3:12, Bryan Hoyt | Brush Technology wrote:
I agree. Additionally, something like this would be incredibly useful for printing purposes when you export "area is page". If you have objects that bleed over the the edge, you generally want to export a slightly larger PDF to include a few mm over the edge of the page, so it can be trimmed down to size afterwards.
Slightly different use-case, perhaps, but very similar functionality.
Just committed to trunk, r11847. I'm sorry if breaking the feature freeze rule for this (oct 26?); I hope it is relatively harmless. For minimum impact, the current feature assumes the margin/bleed is specified in millimeters (we don't have proper unit support for extensions it seems).
It would be quite useful to make it a per-document preference.
I don't know how to do that for output extensions (without making a terrible hack).
I believe the PDF format can explicitly specify "bleed" and "display" regions, or similar. Making sensible use of those feature would seem a good idea, but that said, I've found most printers can work just fine with a slightly larger-than-page PDF.
If anybody wants to pursue this, have a look at: http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/page_boxes
Cheers, Johan
On 28/10/2012 15:20, Johan Engelen wrote:
On 28-10-2012 3:12, Bryan Hoyt | Brush Technology wrote:
On 27/10/2012 23:04, Johan Engelen wrote:
When I export to PDF, I generally use "area is drawing", (that has now been renamed to "exported object's size" but should be "selected object's size" I believe, or in case nothing is selected "drawing size" or something that current users will recognize). To create a little bit of breathing room for the drawing, I would like to add a little margin to the area of the drawing. Does this make sense to you to add to the export options? "Extra margin: 10 px" or whatever unit.
I agree. Additionally, something like this would be incredibly useful for printing purposes when you export "area is page". If you have objects that bleed over the the edge, you generally want to export a slightly larger PDF to include a few mm over the edge of the page, so it can be trimmed down to size afterwards.
Slightly different use-case, perhaps, but very similar functionality.
Just committed to trunk, r11847. I'm sorry if breaking the feature freeze rule for this (oct 26?); I hope it is relatively harmless. For minimum impact, the current feature assumes the margin/bleed is specified in millimeters (we don't have proper unit support for extensions it seems).
New PDF export option tested with r11847 (OS X 10.7.4, Ubuntu 12.10), PDFs verified with Apple's Preview, gs 9.06, Evince 2.30.3/3.6.0.
- when exporting with 'Document's page size', the margin is added twice on the right side and at the bottom, and the page content is not centered (as one might have expected) on the (enlarged) page of the PDF document.
If the option is only intentioned to work when exporting with the size of the drawing content (instead of page size), it should be made insensitive if export area is the document's page size (AFAIU this can't be done in current INX-based dialogs, but it's rather confusing to users otherwise), or at least labeled as such ("Bleed/margin for 'Drawing' export area") and any value ignored when exporting with the document's page size (instead of adding the margins on two sides only).
On 28-10-2012 17:48, ~suv wrote:
On 28/10/2012 15:20, Johan Engelen wrote:
On 28-10-2012 3:12, Bryan Hoyt | Brush Technology wrote:
On 27/10/2012 23:04, Johan Engelen wrote:
When I export to PDF, I generally use "area is drawing", (that hasnow been renamed to "exported object's size" but should be "selected object's size" I believe, or in case nothing is selected "drawing size" or something that current users will recognize). To create a little bit of breathing room for the drawing, I would like to add a little margin to the area of the drawing. Does this make sense to you to add to the export options? "Extra margin: 10 px" or whatever unit.
I agree. Additionally, something like this would be incredibly useful for printing purposes when you export "area is page". If you have objects that bleed over the the edge, you generally want to export a slightly larger PDF to include a few mm over the edge of the page, so it can be trimmed down to size afterwards.
Slightly different use-case, perhaps, but very similar functionality.
Just committed to trunk, r11847. I'm sorry if breaking the feature freeze rule for this (oct 26?); I hope it is relatively harmless. For minimum impact, the current feature assumes the margin/bleed is specified in millimeters (we don't have proper unit support for extensions it seems).
New PDF export option tested with r11847 (OS X 10.7.4, Ubuntu 12.10), PDFs verified with Apple's Preview, gs 9.06, Evince 2.30.3/3.6.0.
- when exporting with 'Document's page size', the margin is added twice
on the right side and at the bottom, and the page content is not centered (as one might have expected) on the (enlarged) page of the PDF document.
Thanks for finding the bug, fixed now :-)
Cheers, Johan
On 27/10/2012 23:04, Johan Engelen wrote:
When I export to PDF, I generally use "area is drawing", (that has now been renamed to "exported object's size" but should be "selected object's size" I believe, or in case nothing is selected "drawing size" or something that current users will recognize).
PDF export does not honor current selection (unless somehow this magically got implemented overnight - it's a long-standing feature request). IMHO the recently change of the label is misleading:
Old:
[ ] Export area is drawing
New:
[ ] Use exported object's size
Neither does Inkscape support to export to PDF by selection, nor is that export area option limited to the one right below:
Limit export to the object with ID: ___
See also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/499965 comment #11
IMHO the recently change of the label is misleading: > > Old: > > [ ] Export area is drawing > > New: > > [ ] Use exported object's size > > Neither does Inkscape support to export to PDF by selection, nor is that > export area option limited to the one right below:
Would "Use drawing/selection size" be a better label ? Any other suggestions ?
On 28/10/2012 04:55, John Smith wrote:
IMHO the recently change of the label is misleading:
Old:
[ ] Export area is drawing
New:
[ ] Use exported object's size
Neither does Inkscape support to export to PDF by selection, nor is that export area option limited to the one right below:
Would "Use drawing/selection size" be a better label ? Any other suggestions ?
'Selection' seems as misleading (to me): 'Selection' as known e.g. from bitmap export is not relevant (not used) for PDF/PS/EPS export (limiting the export to a single object by entering its ID is different and requires additional efforts by the user to retrieve the information about the ID manually, before saving a copy as PDF/PS/EPS). There is a feature request pending to allow to export the current selection to vector-based formats [1], but it is not implemented AFAIK.
Why not use the previous labels for both options (Export area is page, Export area is drawing) [2]? Those terms are used across the GUI in various places (Export bitmap, Align relative to, Resize page to drawing).
[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168627 Bug #168627 “RFE: 'export selection' to vector formats (PDF, eps,...)”
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/499965 Bug #499965 “"exported area is the drawing" and "exported area is the page" aren't alternative in export”
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