I was going to comment on the shortcut too!
Developers will probably want to reserve Ctrl+Shift+N for New Layer or New from Template, which is the kind of thing that shortcut is normally used for.
I changed that already, see my yesterday's mail.
Adobe Illustrator doesn't seem to have anything directly analagous to a Clone tool. The way it works in Adobe Illustrator seems to be that you make a symbol of something first and then you use the Symbol tools, namely the Symbol Sprayer which has the keybinding Shift+S. I dont know how you plan to implement things in the future but you may want to reconsider the current design if it will inevitably need to be changed later.
Hmmm. It's not often (yet) that we beat AI on something, and now that we've done it, you suggest that we drop it for compatibility? :)
The Symbols facility and the Clone command are entirely different, even if they will use the same internal implementaion (via <use>). They have different goals and different uses. It would be nice for Inkscape to have a Symbols palette eventually, but even when we have it, Clone will remain too.
Do other vector graphics tools behave similarly or do they have Clone tools? The Gimp uses the single letter 'C' for Clone (dont know what Adobe Photoshop uses) which seems reasonable.
Gimp and Photoshop are irrelevant - they are bitmap tools, and their "clones" are just copies that are not linked to the original.
AFAIK no other vector editors have anything like our live clones. I did suggest this feature to Xara X guys a few years ago, but they told me it was too difficult to implement (obviously it did not fit their internal architecture). It's so deeply satisfying to be able to outperform them now with open source! :)
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:55:32 +0000, bulia byak wrote:
Do other vector graphics tools behave similarly or do they have Clone tools? The Gimp uses the single letter 'C' for Clone (dont know what Adobe Photoshop uses) which seems reasonable.
Gimp and Photoshop are irrelevant - they are bitmap tools, and their "clones" are just copies that are not linked to the original.
AFIAR Freehand is using Ctrl-C for clone and Ctrl-D for duplicate.
AFAIK no other vector editors have anything like our live clones. I did suggest this feature to Xara X guys a few years ago, but they told me it was too difficult to implement (obviously it did not fit their internal architecture). It's so deeply satisfying to be able to outperform them now with open source! :)
Yes, that is very great. I was very disappointed when I found out that the only difference between Clone and Duplicate in Freehand is that Duplicate moves the duplicated object a bit and Clone does not (or vice versa).
BTW Is there a key for making a clone while moving an object (duplicate works with space)?
Regards, Helge
bulia byak wrote:
Adobe Illustrator doesn't seem to have anything directly analagous to a Clone tool. The way it works in Adobe Illustrator seems to be that you make a symbol of something first and then you use the Symbol tools, namely the Symbol Sprayer which has the keybinding Shift+S. I dont know how you plan to implement things in the future but you may want to reconsider the current design if it will inevitably need to be changed later.
Hmmm. It's not often (yet) that we beat AI on something, and now that we've done it, you suggest that we drop it for compatibility? :)
This is very true. People often forget that this program is an -SVG- editor, and needs to follow the SVG specs.
Bob
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Bob Jamison
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bulia byak
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Helge Hielscher