From Maren Hachmann Fri Nov 2 23:15:09 2018
From: Maren Hachmann
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2018 00:14:59 +0100
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Hi,
another status update:
Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
What works again:
-----------------
- News editing and translation
- CMS page editing and publishing
- Registration
- Uploading images
What doesn't work:
------------------
- Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
doesn't happen consistently.)
- Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
(it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
English menu).
This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
- Messages between users
- ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
What works differently:
-----------------------
The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
existing link plugins to normal html links.
This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
break something.
All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
.... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
linking to in the link.
For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
'https' to be able to leave it out.
Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
lot faster than we're used to.
The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
current changes:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
Help needed
-----------
Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
for details :)
Maren
Am 12.10.18 um 03:14 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> Hi there,
>
> Martin, Bryce and Travis from our friendly hosters at OSUOSL have worked
> on switching the inkscape.org website to the newer version this evening.
>
> In some parts of the world, due to DNS propagation, you might not yet
> see the new page, but you will soon (it looks pretty much the same,
> though, just the backend is newer).
>
> It now features a new shiny django (yay!).
>
> Unfortunately, it currently has problems with page edits, news edits and
> resource uploads.
>
> Please hold off editing anything on it, to not lose any work.
>
> Martin is working on fixing things, and will let you know when it's good
> for editing again.
>
> Downloads and viewing the pages work as usual (except for viewing pasted
> texts), so most people won't be affected by the issues.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Maren
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-devel mailing list
> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>
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From brynn Tue Nov 6 00:56:17 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:56:06 -0700
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Thanks for the update, Maren. And thanks - As Always - for your hard work on=
=20
the website, Martin! And of course thanks to everyone else who pitches in!
I just wanted to make one note. And ask a question.
It is possible to send messages.....by which I mean that it appears that a=20
message is sent. However, there's no way to receive messages. There's no=20
access to inboxes.
I actually had sent 2 or 3 messages (moderation issues) before I realized tha=
t=20
we can't access our inboxes. Will those members eventually receive them? Or=
=20
should I plan to re-send them later?
Thanks again!
brynn
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Hi,
another status update:
Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
What works again:
-----------------
- News editing and translation
- CMS page editing and publishing
- Registration
- Uploading images
What doesn't work:
------------------
- Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
doesn't happen consistently.)
- Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
(it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
English menu).
This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
- Messages between users
- ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
What works differently:
-----------------------
The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
existing link plugins to normal html links.
This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
break something.
All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
.... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
linking to in the link.
For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
'https' to be able to leave it out.
Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
lot faster than we're used to.
The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
current changes:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
Help needed
-----------
Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
for details :)
Maren
Am 12.10.18 um 03:14 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> Hi there,
>
> Martin, Bryce and Travis from our friendly hosters at OSUOSL have worked
> on switching the inkscape.org website to the newer version this evening.
>
> In some parts of the world, due to DNS propagation, you might not yet
> see the new page, but you will soon (it looks pretty much the same,
> though, just the backend is newer).
>
> It now features a new shiny django (yay!).
>
> Unfortunately, it currently has problems with page edits, news edits and
> resource uploads.
>
> Please hold off editing anything on it, to not lose any work.
>
> Martin is working on fixing things, and will let you know when it's good
> for editing again.
>
> Downloads and viewing the pages work as usual (except for viewing pasted
> texts), so most people won't be affected by the issues.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Maren
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-devel mailing list
> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>
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From Maren Hachmann Tue Nov 6 02:20:48 2018
From: Maren Hachmann
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 03:20:25 +0100
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Am 06.11.18 um 01:56 schrieb brynn:
> Thanks for the update, Maren. And thanks - As Always - for your hard
> work on the website, Martin! And of course thanks to everyone else who
> pitches in!
>
> I just wanted to make one note. And ask a question.
>
> It is possible to send messages.....by which I mean that it appears that
> a message is sent. However, there's no way to receive messages.
> There's no access to inboxes.
- Not for me... When I click send, I get a blank page. It does not get
sent by email, and it does not arrive in my inbox on the website (which
is accessible at https://inkscape.org/alerts). Just the icon is missing,
the pages are there. I tested with my two accounts, in both directions.
> I actually had sent 2 or 3 messages (moderation issues) before I
> realized that we can't access our inboxes. Will those members
> eventually receive them? Or should I plan to re-send them later?
- I don't think they got them, no.
> Thanks again!
> brynn
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
> To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
>
> Hi,
>
> another status update:
>
> Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
> website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
>
> What works again:
> -----------------
>
> - News editing and translation
> - CMS page editing and publishing
> - Registration
> - Uploading images
>
> What doesn't work:
> ------------------
>
> - Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
> pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
> doesn't happen consistently.)
> - Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
> (it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
> English menu).
>
> This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
> if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
>
> - Messages between users
> - ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
>
> What works differently:
> -----------------------
>
> The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
> lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
> existing link plugins to normal html links.
>
> This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
> user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
> copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
> break something.
>
> All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
> .... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
> properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
> linking to in the link.
>
> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
> the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
> 'https' to be able to leave it out.
>
> Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
> lot faster than we're used to.
>
> The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
> current changes:
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
>
> Help needed
> -----------
>
> Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
> in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
> bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
> locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
> check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
>
> Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
> for details :)
>
> Maren
>
> Am 12.10.18 um 03:14 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Martin, Bryce and Travis from our friendly hosters at OSUOSL have worked
>> on switching the inkscape.org website to the newer version this evening.
>>
>> In some parts of the world, due to DNS propagation, you might not yet
>> see the new page, but you will soon (it looks pretty much the same,
>> though, just the backend is newer).
>>
>> It now features a new shiny django (yay!).
>>
>> Unfortunately, it currently has problems with page edits, news edits and
>> resource uploads.
>>
>> Please hold off editing anything on it, to not lose any work.
>>
>> Martin is working on fixing things, and will let you know when it's good
>> for editing again.
>>
>> Downloads and viewing the pages work as usual (except for viewing pasted
>> texts), so most people won't be affected by the issues.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inkscape-devel mailing list
>> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
>
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From brynn Tue Nov 6 03:19:55 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 20:19:45 -0700
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Oops. Sorry, I have a couple more questions.
1 -- I don't understand what this means:
> As redirects aren't working
properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
linking to in the link.
Is that something which translators need to understand? If it's for everyone=
,=20
what is meant by "redirect" in this context?
2 -- About links to another page on the website:
> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
'https' to be able to leave it out.
Perhaps "" was chosen because of its width? But I wonder if=20
"inkscape.org" or something else more specific might reduce confusion? I'm j=
ust=20
thinking for myself, if it happens I don't make any edits for a few months, I=
'll=20
forget that I'm supposed to use for local links.
Hhmm.... Ok, I'm working on adding a new FAQ, and trying to make a link to t=
he=20
Community page. I choose and then I paste in the URL. But the proto=
col=20
switches itself to https://, and the https:// is removed from the URL. But t=
he=20
domain is still there.
I can switch it back to . But should the URL field just say "communit=
y/"=20
? Or should it be "/community/" ? It looks like "/community/" is the right =
answer. I'll try to publish..... Ok, it looks like that worked :-)
Thank you very much,
brynn
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Hi,
another status update:
Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
What works again:
-----------------
- News editing and translation
- CMS page editing and publishing
- Registration
- Uploading images
What doesn't work:
------------------
- Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
doesn't happen consistently.)
- Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
(it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
English menu).
This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
- Messages between users
- ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
What works differently:
-----------------------
The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
existing link plugins to normal html links.
This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
break something.
All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
.... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
linking to in the link.
For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
'https' to be able to leave it out.
Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
lot faster than we're used to.
The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
current changes:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
Help needed
-----------
Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
for details :)
Maren
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From brynn Tue Nov 6 03:51:59 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 20:51:41 -0700
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> - Not for me... When I click send, I get a blank page.
When I click send, I'm redirected to my profile page, which is exactly what
usually happens when I send a message. It seemed to me just like usual. It
only occurred to me later that they could not see them.
> - I don't think they got them, no.
Ok, I'll just send new messages when it comes back online.
Thank you very much,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:20 PM
To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
Cc: Martin Owens
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Am 06.11.18 um 01:56 schrieb brynn:
> Thanks for the update, Maren. And thanks - As Always - for your hard
> work on the website, Martin! And of course thanks to everyone else who
> pitches in!
>
> I just wanted to make one note. And ask a question.
>
> It is possible to send messages.....by which I mean that it appears that
> a message is sent. However, there's no way to receive messages.
> There's no access to inboxes.
- Not for me... When I click send, I get a blank page. It does not get
sent by email, and it does not arrive in my inbox on the website (which
is accessible at https://inkscape.org/alerts). Just the icon is missing,
the pages are there. I tested with my two accounts, in both directions.
> I actually had sent 2 or 3 messages (moderation issues) before I
> realized that we can't access our inboxes. Will those members
> eventually receive them? Or should I plan to re-send them later?
- I don't think they got them, no.
> Thanks again!
> brynn
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
> To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
>
> Hi,
>
> another status update:
>
> Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
> website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
>
> What works again:
> -----------------
>
> - News editing and translation
> - CMS page editing and publishing
> - Registration
> - Uploading images
>
> What doesn't work:
> ------------------
>
> - Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
> pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
> doesn't happen consistently.)
> - Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
> (it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
> English menu).
>
> This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
> if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
>
> - Messages between users
> - ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
>
> What works differently:
> -----------------------
>
> The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
> lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
> existing link plugins to normal html links.
>
> This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
> user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
> copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
> break something.
>
> All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
> .... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
> properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
> linking to in the link.
>
> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
> the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
> 'https' to be able to leave it out.
>
> Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
> lot faster than we're used to.
>
> The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
> current changes:
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
>
> Help needed
> -----------
>
> Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
> in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
> bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
> locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
> check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
>
> Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
> for details :)
>
> Maren
>
> Am 12.10.18 um 03:14 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Martin, Bryce and Travis from our friendly hosters at OSUOSL have worked
>> on switching the inkscape.org website to the newer version this evening.
>>
>> In some parts of the world, due to DNS propagation, you might not yet
>> see the new page, but you will soon (it looks pretty much the same,
>> though, just the backend is newer).
>>
>> It now features a new shiny django (yay!).
>>
>> Unfortunately, it currently has problems with page edits, news edits and
>> resource uploads.
>>
>> Please hold off editing anything on it, to not lose any work.
>>
>> Martin is working on fixing things, and will let you know when it's good
>> for editing again.
>>
>> Downloads and viewing the pages work as usual (except for viewing pasted
>> texts), so most people won't be affected by the issues.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inkscape-devel mailing list
>> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
>
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From brynn Tue Nov 6 04:44:53 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-docs] screencasters video tutorials on the website
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 21:44:24 -0700
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Hi Friends,
Relatively recently, the screencasters.heathenx website was closed. =
I=20
just found out about it a month or 2 ago. Mark (aka Xav, on InkscapeForum) h=
as=20
acquired copies of most if not all of them. Little by little, he has been=20
uploading them to YouTube.=20
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9iOkFutSFbcTCzQlyCr5Ig/videos I think he s=
aid=20
he's been adding approx 3 per week.
I've just edited the link on the Learn page=20
(https://inkscape.org/learn/) of the website, and added a brief notation abou=
t=20
the videos being added to YT. On the Video Tutorials page=20
(https://inkscape.org/learn/videos/), where there was simply a link to that=20
website, I deleted it.
The reason I deleted it, is because I don't have time to do this myse=
lf.=20
But I recall a year or maybe closer to 2 years ago someone was interested in =
adding individual videos (links to them, I mean) to that page. So I thought =
they (or anyone) might like to kind of keep track of what's been uploaded to =
YT,=20
and choose the "Best of" and add them to the Video Tutorials page.
If someone is interested to do this, but they don't already have acce=
ss=20
to edit the page, just reply to this message, and someone can get you set up =
to=20
do that.
If no on is interested, or has time right now, there are already othe=
r=20
videos on the page. So I think it will be ok. But if anyone is interested, =
the=20
best of those videos would be nice to include there.
All best,
brynn
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From Maren Hachmann Tue Nov 6 16:25:13 2018
From: Maren Hachmann
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:24:52 +0100
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Am 06.11.18 um 04:51 schrieb brynn:
>> - Not for me... When I click send, I get a blank page.
>
> When I click send, I'm redirected to my profile page, which is exactly
> what usually happens when I send a message. It seemed to me just like
> usual. It only occurred to me later that they could not see them.
Hi Brynn,
can you add the info about the differing behavior to the bug report,
please? Might have to do with languages again, then.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/252
Maren
>> - I don't think they got them, no.
>
> Ok, I'll just send new messages when it comes back online.
>
> Thank you very much,
> brynn
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:20 PM
> To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
> Cc: Martin Owens
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current
> status
>
> Am 06.11.18 um 01:56 schrieb brynn:
>> Thanks for the update, Maren. And thanks - As Always - for your hard
>> work on the website, Martin! And of course thanks to everyone else who
>> pitches in!
>>
>> I just wanted to make one note. And ask a question.
>>
>> It is possible to send messages.....by which I mean that it appears that
>> a message is sent. However, there's no way to receive messages.
>> There's no access to inboxes.
>
> - Not for me... When I click send, I get a blank page. It does not get
> sent by email, and it does not arrive in my inbox on the website (which
> is accessible at https://inkscape.org/alerts). Just the icon is missing,
> the pages are there. I tested with my two accounts, in both directions.
>
>
>> I actually had sent 2 or 3 messages (moderation issues) before I
>> realized that we can't access our inboxes. Will those members
>> eventually receive them? Or should I plan to re-send them later?
>
> - I don't think they got them, no.
>
>> Thanks again!
>> brynn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
>> To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
>> Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> another status update:
>>
>> Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
>> website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
>>
>> What works again:
>> -----------------
>>
>> - News editing and translation
>> - CMS page editing and publishing
>> - Registration
>> - Uploading images
>>
>> What doesn't work:
>> ------------------
>>
>> - Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
>> pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
>> doesn't happen consistently.)
>> - Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
>> (it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
>> English menu).
>>
>> This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
>> if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
>>
>> - Messages between users
>> - ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
>>
>> What works differently:
>> -----------------------
>>
>> The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
>> lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
>> existing link plugins to normal html links.
>>
>> This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
>> user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
>> copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
>> break something.
>>
>> All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
>> .... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
>> properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
>> linking to in the link.
>>
>> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
>> the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
>> 'https' to be able to leave it out.
>>
>> Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
>> lot faster than we're used to.
>>
>> The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
>> current changes:
>> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
>>
>> Help needed
>> -----------
>>
>> Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
>> in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
>> bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
>> locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
>> check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
>>
>> Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
>> for details :)
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 12.10.18 um 03:14 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Martin, Bryce and Travis from our friendly hosters at OSUOSL have worked
>>> on switching the inkscape.org website to the newer version this evening.
>>>
>>> In some parts of the world, due to DNS propagation, you might not yet
>>> see the new page, but you will soon (it looks pretty much the same,
>>> though, just the backend is newer).
>>>
>>> It now features a new shiny django (yay!).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, it currently has problems with page edits, news edits and
>>> resource uploads.
>>>
>>> Please hold off editing anything on it, to not lose any work.
>>>
>>> Martin is working on fixing things, and will let you know when it's good
>>> for editing again.
>>>
>>> Downloads and viewing the pages work as usual (except for viewing pasted
>>> texts), so most people won't be affected by the issues.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Maren
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inkscape-devel mailing list
>>> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inkscape-docs mailing list
>> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
>>
>
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From Maren Hachmann Tue Nov 6 16:49:06 2018
From: Maren Hachmann
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:48:55 +0100
Message-ID:
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Am 06.11.18 um 04:19 schrieb brynn:
> Oops. Sorry, I have a couple more questions.
>
> 1 -- I don't understand what this means:
>
>> As redirects aren't working
> properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
> linking to in the link.
>
> Is that something which translators need to understand?
- Yes, you probably won't need to worry about this.
> If it's for
> everyone, what is meant by "redirect" in this context?
>
> 2 -- About links to another page on the website:
>
>> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
> the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
> 'https' to be able to leave it out.
>
> Perhaps "" was chosen because of its width? But I wonder if
> "inkscape.org" or something else more specific might reduce confusion?
> I'm just thinking for myself, if it happens I don't make any edits for a
> few months, I'll forget that I'm supposed to use for local links.
- In a few months (or maybe earlier), we will have an automatted search
mask for internal links. Please try to remember it until then.
See https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/238 for updates.
> Hhmm.... Ok, I'm working on adding a new FAQ, and trying to make a link
> to the Community page. I choose and then I paste in the URL.
> But the protocol switches itself to https://, and the https:// is
> removed from the URL. But the domain is still there.
>
> I can switch it back to . But should the URL field just say
> "community/" ? Or should it be "/community/" ? It looks like
> "/community/" is the right answer. I'll try to publish..... Ok, it
> looks like that worked :-)
- Yes, see also the linked Wiki page below where it is explained in
detail. Specifically, you will find the relevant section at
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite#Specific_Instructions
Maren
> Thank you very much,
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 5:14 PM
> To: Inkscape Devel List ; translators ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Website update: current status
>
> Hi,
>
> another status update:
>
> Martin has worked to fix the issues that had the greatest impact on
> website use, after the switch to the new Python 3 version of the website.
>
> What works again:
> -----------------
>
> - News editing and translation
> - CMS page editing and publishing
> - Registration
> - Uploading images
>
> What doesn't work:
> ------------------
>
> - Correct menu language (when you visit the website, you may get English
> pages, but see a menu in German, Italian, or some other language. This
> doesn't happen consistently.)
> - Providing fallback pages if a page doesn't exist in a certain language
> (it then just goes directly to the English page, with the - hopefully -
> English menu).
>
> This means that translators must pay extra attention on the URL, to see
> if they are working on their own language, and not the English page!
>
> - Messages between users
> - ... and some more, see https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues
>
> What works differently:
> -----------------------
>
> The website does no longer use link plugins. Those were a source of a
> lot of issues, confusing editors and the CMS alike. Martin converted all
> existing link plugins to normal html links.
>
> This means that - unless a Table of contents, an image, a gallery, a
> user list or any other plugin are part of the page - one can now
> copy-paste almost any text from one page to another, without risking to
> break something.
>
> All new links will now be inserted using the link icon in the editor (or
> .... in the source mode). As redirects aren't working
> properly, you need to include the language code for the language you're
> linking to in the link.
>
> For a link that is goes to another page on inkscape.org, do not include
> the domain. In the protocol dropdown, select '' instead of
> 'https' to be able to leave it out.
>
> Another side effect of the change seems to be that publishing works a
> lot faster than we're used to.
>
> The Website instructions Wiki page has been updated to reflect the
> current changes:
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite
>
> Help needed
> -----------
>
> Martin has asked me to ask if someone (preferably someone who is fluent
> in Python, and if possible, has Django experience) can help with website
> bug fixing. A good place to start would be to install the website
> locally on your computer (requires Linux, or a VM with Linux), and to
> check on the issues section for the website on gitlab.
>
> Vectors team, could you publish this request on social media? Ask Martin
> for details :)
>
> Maren
>
>
--===============5186172963862833825==--
From brynn Tue Nov 27 01:09:14 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:08:59 -0700
Message-ID:
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Hi Friends,
Regarding this image (which isn't flagged yet, because I didn't want =
it=20
to get deleted before this question is answered)=20
https://inkscape.org/~scramer89(a)...183.../%E2%98%85grandma-grandpa
Mostly out of idle curiosity - it appears to be small, because when I=
=20
click on it to zoom, it stays the same size (approx 1" x 2" onscreen). But I=
=20
happened to notice the size is 4032x3024 (I guess is pixels? would be bigger =
than my screen). So I thought, "what the heck?". Decided to click Download =
button to see the real thing, and settle the discrepancy.
Download button gives 403 Forbidden nginx/1.12.2. Interesting, Full =
Size button gives same.
Should a JPG be downloadable? It seems like it should. But I want t=
o=20
confirm whether it needs a new Issue or not, before I make possibly unecessar=
y=20
work for mods on gitlab.
Thanks,
brynn
--===============6648812682089583943==--
From unknown@example.com Tue Nov 27 06:58:27 2018
From: unknown@example.com
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 01:58:17 -0500
Message-ID: <45b01846e292a927482bf124eaeefacb03cd68e6.camel@...2...>
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Hi Brynn,
This is certainly a bug... the web server shows that since October
we've had 9 uploads of files ranging from 1.4MB to 8.2MB. They have
different permissions from other files uploaded so aren't accessible to
nginx directly, only to the django server. 😕
I wonder if there's something new in the upgraded django for large
files. This would hurt us when we come to do a deployment since
inkscape is larger than 1MB.
I've fixed the nine files.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:08 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> Regarding this image (which isn't flagged yet, because I
> didn't want it
> to get deleted before this question is answered)
>
https://inkscape.org/~scramer89(a)...183.../%E2%98%85grandma-grandpa
>
> Mostly out of idle curiosity - it appears to be small,
> because when I
> click on it to zoom, it stays the same size (approx 1" x 2"
> onscreen). But I
> happened to notice the size is 4032x3024 (I guess is pixels? would be
> bigger
> than my screen). So I thought, "what the heck?". Decided to click
> Download
> button to see the real thing, and settle the discrepancy.
>
> Download button gives 403 Forbidden
> nginx/1.12.2. Interesting, Full
> Size button gives same.
>
> Should a JPG be downloadable? It seems like it should. But
> I want to
> confirm whether it needs a new Issue or not, before I make possibly
> unecessary
> work for mods on gitlab.
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
--===============3351931541026078277==--
From brynn Wed Nov 28 06:01:55 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:01:28 -0700
Message-ID: <4FB84C3C541E499CA155A6B3B16B9CF6@...141...>
In-Reply-To: <45b01846e292a927482bf124eaeefacb03cd68e6.camel@...2...>
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Thanks Martin.
Just to prevent creating a new message. I just noticed that....well, I've=20
always called it breadcrumbs....when you see something like this: Home > Lea=
rn=20
> FAQ, and each item is a link to that part of the website.
Anyway, I use that type of feature quite a lot, and just noticed that it's=20
missing from at least the gallery. Hhm, no it's missing from most of the=20
website. Was it just dropped with the last new release?
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message-----=20
From: doctormo(a)...2...
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:58 PM
To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Hi Brynn,
This is certainly a bug... the web server shows that since October
we've had 9 uploads of files ranging from 1.4MB to 8.2MB. They have
different permissions from other files uploaded so aren't accessible to
nginx directly, only to the django server. =F0=9F=98=95
I wonder if there's something new in the upgraded django for large
files. This would hurt us when we come to do a deployment since
inkscape is larger than 1MB.
I've fixed the nine files.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:08 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> Regarding this image (which isn't flagged yet, because I
> didn't want it
> to get deleted before this question is answered)
>
https://inkscape.org/~scramer89(a)...183.../%E2%98%85grandma-grandpa
>
> Mostly out of idle curiosity - it appears to be small,
> because when I
> click on it to zoom, it stays the same size (approx 1" x 2"
> onscreen). But I
> happened to notice the size is 4032x3024 (I guess is pixels? would be
> bigger
> than my screen). So I thought, "what the heck?". Decided to click
> Download
> button to see the real thing, and settle the discrepancy.
>
> Download button gives 403 Forbidden
> nginx/1.12.2. Interesting, Full
> Size button gives same.
>
> Should a JPG be downloadable? It seems like it should. But
> I want to
> confirm whether it needs a new Issue or not, before I make possibly
> unecessary
> work for mods on gitlab.
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs=20
--===============7944280291851612776==--
From brynn Wed Nov 28 06:06:17 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:05:58 -0700
Message-ID: <0CAE428C103D4DCA96A155522036DC8C@...141...>
In-Reply-To: <45b01846e292a927482bf124eaeefacb03cd68e6.camel@...2...>
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Sorry, relevant to my last reply. The missing breadcrumbs makes it impossibl=
e=20
for me to find the real member who uploads spam to the gallery, when they wri=
te=20
in another name as the artist/author. I can't find them to flag them.
Need to find the member who uploaded this:=20
https://inkscape.org/~MelodieRNo%C3%ABl/%E2%98%85seo
Thanks again,
brynn
-----Original Message-----=20
From: doctormo(a)...2...
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:58 PM
To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Hi Brynn,
This is certainly a bug... the web server shows that since October
we've had 9 uploads of files ranging from 1.4MB to 8.2MB. They have
different permissions from other files uploaded so aren't accessible to
nginx directly, only to the django server. =F0=9F=98=95
I wonder if there's something new in the upgraded django for large
files. This would hurt us when we come to do a deployment since
inkscape is larger than 1MB.
I've fixed the nine files.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:08 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> Regarding this image (which isn't flagged yet, because I
> didn't want it
> to get deleted before this question is answered)
>
https://inkscape.org/~scramer89(a)...183.../%E2%98%85grandma-grandpa
>
> Mostly out of idle curiosity - it appears to be small,
> because when I
> click on it to zoom, it stays the same size (approx 1" x 2"
> onscreen). But I
> happened to notice the size is 4032x3024 (I guess is pixels? would be
> bigger
> than my screen). So I thought, "what the heck?". Decided to click
> Download
> button to see the real thing, and settle the discrepancy.
>
> Download button gives 403 Forbidden
> nginx/1.12.2. Interesting, Full
> Size button gives same.
>
> Should a JPG be downloadable? It seems like it should. But
> I want to
> confirm whether it needs a new Issue or not, before I make possibly
> unecessary
> work for mods on gitlab.
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs=20
--===============7027490112463087622==--
From unknown@example.com Wed Nov 28 15:24:02 2018
From: unknown@example.com
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:23:37 -0500
Message-ID: <95ebc00898fe645495809b5d5f15e0c0843ee81d.camel@...2...>
In-Reply-To: <4FB84C3C541E499CA155A6B3B16B9CF6@...141...>
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On Tue, 2018-11-27 at 23:01 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Anyway, I use that type of feature quite a lot, and just noticed that
> it's missing from at least the gallery. Hhm, no it's missing from
> most of the website. Was it just dropped with the last new release?
Yes it's currently disabled. Sorry for the inconvenience. It'll be back
soon though, it's just waiting for an upgrade.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
--===============1322550999295113752==--
From brynn Fri Nov 30 06:58:16 2018
From: brynn
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:57:54 -0700
Message-ID: <6F9B75A6B8714F9AA50A7363FDDE3159@...141...>
In-Reply-To: <95ebc00898fe645495809b5d5f15e0c0843ee81d.camel@...2...>
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Awesome, thanks Martin.
Would you like a bug report for the too big images? Or a list of them? Here=
's=20
another. I'm not sure if it doesn't display because of being CDR or being 8.=
9=20
mb?
https://media.inkscape.org/dl/resources/file/Poster_Green_Wins_Final.cdr
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message-----=20
From: doctormo(a)...2...
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:23 AM
To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
On Tue, 2018-11-27 at 23:01 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Anyway, I use that type of feature quite a lot, and just noticed that
> it's missing from at least the gallery. Hhm, no it's missing from
> most of the website. Was it just dropped with the last new release?
Yes it's currently disabled. Sorry for the inconvenience. It'll be back
soon though, it's just waiting for an upgrade.
Best Regards, Martin Owens=20
--===============1236748335294958014==--
From unknown@example.com Fri Nov 30 15:50:51 2018
From: unknown@example.com
To: inkscape-docs@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] can't download JPG (or see full size)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:50:26 -0500
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On Thu, 2018-11-29 at 23:57 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Awesome, thanks Martin.
>
> Would you like a bug report for the too big images? Or a list of
> them? Here's
> another. I'm not sure if it doesn't display because of being CDR or
> being 8.9
> mb?
>
>
https://media.inkscape.org/dl/resources/file/Poster_Green_Wins_Final.cdr
A bug report to track the fact that large uploads have the wrong
permissions on the server would be useful. Although nothing is required
in terms of a list of items.
Thanks Brynn!
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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