Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so I'm clear what's happening.

Thanks, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)

04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" <maren@...68...>:

Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:

I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But again, that's not something I can start on right away.

- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is still open, no decision was made).

But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)

But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.

- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the switch, not sure.

Maren

Thanks

-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page. But now we are putting them in the gallery?

- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ...

I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators.

But maybe that would be going too far?

Regards, Maren

-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.

03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:

I don't understand what this means:

- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.

Thanks

-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:

Hi Vardenis, I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text? Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials?

- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions.

(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)

But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.

- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically.

I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like. I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes. But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain?

- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.

Regards, Maren

Thanks, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?

Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.

03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:

First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

Thanks, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can add text and other important information like the license (if there is one).

This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the gallery widgets.

Martin,

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:

No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of tutorials, with a link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page needs some attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be organized like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.

Thanks for your help, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)

02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:

Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.

All best, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y bkhs).

I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest.

What do you thinks about that?

Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)

02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:

I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com /index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon.

I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it.

One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current.

Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.)

All best, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote:

Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials.

I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go.

The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website.

Sound like fun?

Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator

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