Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But
again, that's not something I can start on right away.
- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
still open, no decision was made).But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets
came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)
But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.
- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
switch, not sure.
MarenThanks
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
page. But
now we are putting them in the gallery?
- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
commenting ...
I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
videos to be added by their creators.
But maybe that would be going too far?
Regards,
Maren-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
External
Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:
I don't understand what this means:
- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
Thanks
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
Hi Vardenis,
I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
better
not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
already
are
mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
However,
you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right
column,
where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not
put such a
tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as
if there
were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
tutorials?
- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
extensions.
(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's
asking to
have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
work automatically.
I haven't ever done that
before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because
I know
they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look
like.
I'll do it in just a few minutes.
But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and
embedding it.
Are
all YT videos automatically public domain?
- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
Regards,
Maren
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials)
and
don't
upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section
(current
video
tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text
based than
videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials
category
(https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of
a mess
and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you
thinks?
Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:
First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher.
Is there
no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
add text and other important information like the license (if there is
one).
This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
gallery widgets.
Martin,
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
tutorials, with a
link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
needs some
attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
organized
like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
Thanks for your help,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website
No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
me). I'm not
editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
and I'm
thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
more
helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
current with
new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:
Hi Vardenis,
Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
Inkscape
tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
first
started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
ALWAYS
calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
it, he still
keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
they are
helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
think only a
few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
very good!
I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
it out.
Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
page more
current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
are
going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
project, and
edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website
Hello, Brynn,
Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
your website
and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
in website,
Thanks for you help. ;-)
I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
Saporito
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
he have
playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
Tutorials,
Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
Tutorials, Inkscape
Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
Inkscape,
too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
for game
art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
patterns, too in
channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
And Drawing
have interesting tutorials
(https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
bkhs).
I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
more
interest.
What do you thinks about that?
Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>:
I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
I consider
the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
any errors
or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
/index.php
It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
current
pretty soon.
I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but
can't start
on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to
help you, if
you wanted or needed it.
One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link
on that
page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They
aren't all
video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current.
Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking
for
volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's
looking
to help out.)
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM
To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote:
Hello,
"Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in
this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is
bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video
quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is
hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching
in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ?
In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video
tutorials.
I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd
like
to have a go.
The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make
a
list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it
together on a website.
Sound like fun?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Website Administrator
Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for
discussion. :-)
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