Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.47 - was Re: GSoC 2009 - Project handling in the repository
Le Thursday 19 March 2009 22:54:54 Alexandre Prokoudine, vous avez écrit :
*Filters - Things are still coming in at an amazing pace, and the question is when do we stop Ivan? ;)
We need a GSoC project to invent tools to stop him :)
What I'm concerned about is how we document all these filters. But this is for inkscape-docs@, perhaps.
Yeah it's true. Ivan send me most of his message with Bulia, so i have the story about the mentoring by Bulia and the discover by Ivan. (many, many thanks to Ivan) Also, Ivan is From Belgium, so he speak very well french. That's help us (me?) a lot.
It's hard for him to stop discover and write documentation.
I think it's our job to help him.
First i think we have to open a chapter on FM manual And after open a dialog with Ivan, for the writers do their job on the manual writing what Ivan explain us :-)
I'm intersted in doing that. Just now now now it's hard for me, when my red-project was finish.
Elisa
There are some both rendering and non-rendering issues with SVG Filters. I'll see if they are already logged in the tracker.
*LPE Tool/Technical Tool - What is the plan? Should it be completely disabled for 0.47 since Max has stated that he will be unable to work on it?
ifdef?
Alexandre
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Elisa-yemanja wrote:
I think it's our job to help him.
Indeed!
First i think we have to open a chapter on FM manual
But that mean that we stop working on 0.46, branch it for history and go on with documenting 0.47. Adam? :)
Alexandre
Le Friday 20 March 2009 16:06:33 Alexandre Prokoudine, vous avez écrit :
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Elisa-yemanja wrote:
I think it's our job to help him.
Indeed!
First i think we have to open a chapter on FM manual
But that mean that we stop working on 0.46, branch it for history and go on with documenting 0.47. Adam? :)
Oh it's true... i don't remember what we have plans about the version of Inkscape himself.
So we can creat a new chapter with 0.47 tag to implement after the release of the manual, or after the release of inkscape...mmm you get the idea ?
Elisa
Alexandre
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I agree this is THE choice. 0.47 is pretty coming soon, and there are some huge work to do on new stuffs improving old tools (pen...). These are very visible options and i think this should be completely documented first.
We could aim at having an uptodate FM manual as soon as possible, even if not daeling with the whole software( but was it already the case with 0.46 ?)
pygmee
But that mean that we stop working on 0.46, branch it for history and go on with documenting 0.47. Adam? :)
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Cédric Gémy wrote:
I agree this is THE choice. 0.47 is pretty coming soon, and there are some huge work to do on new stuffs improving old tools (pen...). These are very visible options and i think this should be completely documented first.
We could aim at having an uptodate FM manual as soon as possible, even if not daeling with the whole software( but was it already the case with 0.46 ?)
If there are no objections, somebody has to press the branching button :)
Alexandre
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Cédric Gémy wrote:
I agree this is THE choice. 0.47 is pretty coming soon, and there are some huge work to do on new stuffs improving old tools (pen...). These are very visible options and i think this should be completely documented first.
We could aim at having an uptodate FM manual as soon as possible, even if not daeling with the whole software( but was it already the case with 0.46 ?)
If there are no objections, somebody has to press the branching button :)
Just one question: what will happen to translations after branching?
Alexandre
Since there's no way to automate the process, any translators that are following a certain language will have to update manually by watching the changes. I wish it could be otherwise.
If nobody has any objections, I'm pushing the "branch" button ;)
From now on, let's write for .47
Some things to be careful of: let's be sure a new feature is really going to be in the next release before spending much time on it, and let's make sure that the details of a new feature are finalized before we finalize our documentation of such features :)
JF
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, C�dric G�my wrote:
I agree this is THE choice. 0.47 is pretty coming soon, and there are some huge work to do on new stuffs improving old tools (pen...). These are very visible options and i think this should be completely documented first.
We could aim at having an uptodate FM manual as soon as possible, even if not daeling with the whole software( but was it already the case with 0.46 ?)
If there are no objections, somebody has to press the branching button :)
Just one question: what will happen to translations after branching?
Alexandre
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Elisa-yemanja wrote:
Yeah it's true. Ivan send me most of his message with Bulia, so i have the story about the mentoring by Bulia and the discover by Ivan. (many, many thanks to Ivan) Also, Ivan is From Belgium, so he speak very well french. That's help us (me?) a lot.
It's hard for him to stop discover and write documentation.
I think it's our job to help him.
I don't necessarily think this is true. I think we need to understand the nature of the filters first - I mean, are they considered a part of Inkscape proper, or an addition that could be removed at some point or changed?
If we do document them, I think we might consider just having a quick description of what each does with a screenshot.
I just foresee this as becoming a lot of extra work when we're obviously undermanned already. I hate being contentious, but we have to consider the workload.
If we *do* indeed decide to document them in the manual, I believe it would be best to finish .46 before we do that. Yes, we'll need to make a concerted effort at finishing .46, but I would prefer not to have several versions of a half-finished manual - one is enough.
It does bring up the point for discussion, however, that we could decide to make a truncated, basic version of the .46 manual (like basically what's there right now), call it finished, and move on to .47.
Any thoughts?
Desolee, Elisa, que ce message n'est pas plus facile de comprendre...le langue est assez technical, et il est tres tard ici.
JF
PS - Ivan, I think your work is excellent, and I'm very happy to see it in Inkscape. Please don't take this as a personal assault - it's certainly nothing of the sort. I'm simply questioning the prudence of taking this on when we don't have the manpower to do what we're already committed to.
I'd be very happy to have you document the filters in the manual, though, if you're so inclined (and I'll definitely encourage you to do so!!).
I suppose filters are not the most important thing even if very useful in many circumstances and very pleasant-looking too. Explaining is a hard work since many of the have a quite similar look. So how will you explain the difference :) cedric
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