I don't know C R.

I'm stuck on copyright, because the link Victor gave in his original post showed an image of a hardback book. Since I'm old and old fashioned, I naturally think a published hardback book probably has a copyright. I do realize there are other kinds of publishing.

I'm a little confused still, but I'm hoping Maren can clear it up soon. First we were talking about this book of tutorials. Then we realized that we should get this long awaited, much discussed, and pretty much direly needed manual off the ground. For a minute, we were all on the same page.

Then for some reason, you and Maren and Martin were discussing about using the website's gitlab account for writing something - the manual? the book? I don't know what you were discussing. I remain confused on that point. And part of that seems to involve some kind of license, whether public domain or other, I didn't catch that part.

Maren mentioned an idea she has for combining both projects, but hasn't had a lot of time lately. But soon, hopefully she can clarify.

So that's where I'm coming from.

I see a manual as part of official documention ought to have an open license, if only to facilitate allowing anyone to make future edits, so we aren't held back by needing a single author to edit it.

But a published book of tutorials -- I see that as a money-making project of a single author or maybe small team, which could only have a copyright, to get published (the old-fashioned hardback way) and make sales.

As I said, I have a hard time seeing these 2 different projects married. But I look forward to hearing Maren's idea.

All best, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: C R Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 4:14 AM To: brynn Cc: Nicolas Dufour ; Maren Hachmann ; inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)

Is anyone discussing a copyrighted book or manual at this point? If so, let's not. It's Copyleft or Public Domain. No proprietary books or content should be included in official Inkscape documentation. We need to be able to freely revise, edit, distribute without the legal entanglements.

-C

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:28 AM, brynn <brynn@...78...> wrote:

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• How does version control work for booktype?

This question will probably make more sense when you make the next post you promised from a different message. I had asked why we were talking about using gitlab and all that, if we were still focused on the FLOSS translation/manual. And you said you had an idea to present that you didn't have time at that moment.

I can't really see a marriage of these 2 projects (free manual, copyrighted book of tutorials). But I'm looking forward to hearing your proposal :-)

All best, brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 1:28 PM To: Nicolas Dufour ; brynn ; C R Cc: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)

Hi Nicolas :D,

thank you!

What I would like to know (and what is now buried deep in the email stream) is:

• How does version control work for booktype? Could it be combined with

a git repository, or does it use a fully independent system? (I couldn't find a direct hint, maybe it's just using the django database to keep track of changes/edits?)

• What is the source file format of booktype? Markdown? (guessing from

the requirements for pip)

Regards, Maren

Am 01.05.2017 um 21:08 schrieb Nicolas Dufour:

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Hi all,

I'm just back from two weeks away, and as the thread is very long now I didn't find time to read everything. Sorry if I'm off-topic.

Le Lundi 1 mai 2017 13h07, Maren Hachmann <maren@...68...> a écrit :

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I only wish Nicolas or Elisa could be here to give us some more in-depth

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info about their server's capabilities

Not sure what you mean. Of course the Inkscape project can use the French FM server for the translation, but note that an English version also exists (http://write.flossmanuals.net/). It would probably be easier to work on the English server directly.

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and their book's licencing.

If I remember correctly, the GPLv2 was the first license that was chosen when the FM project was created about 10 years ago, and some books still use it. But the server allows users to choose a different license when creating a new book (CC, GPL, PD). As for the Inkscape book, I see it's under a GPLv3. I don't know if it can be changed (and how) or not. Elisa could probably give more details.

Regards, -- Nicolas