I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I might need some help with that. I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen immediately, either way. Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: doctormo@...2... Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote:

OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, which was shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been offline since my last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was working on the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected security issue). A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't go through the first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security issue or not....or if that could have erased the edit mode. Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should we try and figure out what went wrong first? Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of Contents from the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" isn't it? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal template. What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? Maren Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn:

Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote:

Oh ok, I just re-read your first message. So "action buttons"..... I'm not sure how that could work. For the first section (Before you file a new bug report), there could be a button to search the bug tracker. But there would not be any way to make a button for the user to test the bug in a new blank file after resetting prefs. Plus, if we put them into the bug tracker with the first step, users in a hurry will never come back and finish reading the page. For the 2nd section (what the report Must contain) - if there were some kind of button which would collect the Inkscape version and operating system, that might work. But I don't know of any way to put that into a button. Not unless it contains some kind of script that queries the user's system. (which would probably be blocked with a lot of users' security) And of course there's no way to "buttonize" writing the description. Is there something I'm not seeing, still? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: doctormo@...2... Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant > the table of > contents. > > Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's > supposed to look > like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing > one will > give me an idea what to do. > > If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, > I could > just create another page, and move the contents over. > > Thanks, > brynn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into > my > inbox... > > A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new > template > for the page. > > Page > Templates > Side Bar Page > > I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. > > Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again > (changing back might restore it). > > Maren > > Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > -----Original Message----- From: brynn > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > > which was > > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > > offline > > since my > > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > > working on > > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > > security > > issue). > > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > > go > > through the > > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > > issue or > > not....or if that could have erased the edit mode. > > > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > > we > > try and > > figure out what went wrong first? > > > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > > Contents from > > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > > isn't it? > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a > > bit, > > when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still > > there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal > > template. > > > > What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? > > > > Maren > > > > Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: > > > I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's > > > what I > > > was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it > > > into the > > > already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal > > > Page, I > > > might need some help with that. > > > > > > I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe > > > Patrick > > > knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't > > > happen > > > immediately, either way. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > brynn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: doctormo@...2... > > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM > > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > > > Hi Brynn, > > > > > > The content to the page looks good overall. > > > > > > CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the > > > Sidebar > > > Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what > > > it > > > will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank > > > page. > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > > > > > On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > As a result of my comment and concern about a long > > > > "warning" > > > > message > > > > which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info > > > > needs > > > > to be > > > > included in the bug report, > > > > > > > > details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug > > > > /17744 > > > > 04 > > > > > > > > and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > > > > > Report a > > > > Bug goes > > > > directly to the Report Bugs page of the website > > > > (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) > > > > > > > > which in it's current state does not really perform as that > > > > kind of a > > > > function > > > > (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I > > > > have > > > > overhauled that > > > > page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website > > > > team, > > > > before setting > > > > it live. > > > > > > > > Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at > > > > the > > > > top would be > > > > removed before going "live"): > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > > > > > > > Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to > > > > at > > > > least skim > > > > through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. > > > > > > > > Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > brynn > > > > (and Patrick) > > > > > > > > PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of > > > > inspirational > > > > "thank you" > > > > sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for > > > > contributing to > > > > Inkscape" or something?? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------ > > > > ----------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------- > > > > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

Ok, since there haven't been any further comments, I've published the Report Bugs page with the new text. Thanks for everyone's help! All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:11 PM To: doctormo@...2... ; inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Ok, I had forwarded the email thread to Patrick, and he replied to me privately. (maybe he isn't subscribed to the Docs list, I'm not sure) We're thinking that unless Martin has some specific use for the side panel, which I (or we) haven't been able to imagine yet, we'll just go back to the Normal template. If no other comments or changes, I'll go ahead and replace the current page with the new one, using Normal template. Thanks everyone :-) brynn -----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:05 PM To: doctormo@...2... ; inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Oh ok, I just re-read your first message. So "action buttons"..... I'm not sure how that could work. For the first section (Before you file a new bug report), there could be a button to search the bug tracker. But there would not be any way to make a button for the user to test the bug in a new blank file after resetting prefs. Plus, if we put them into the bug tracker with the first step, users in a hurry will never come back and finish reading the page. For the 2nd section (what the report Must contain) - if there were some kind of button which would collect the Inkscape version and operating system, that might work. But I don't know of any way to put that into a button. Not unless it contains some kind of script that queries the user's system. (which would probably be blocked with a lot of users' security) And of course there's no way to "buttonize" writing the description. Is there something I'm not seeing, still? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: doctormo@...2... Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant > the table of > contents. > > Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's > supposed to look > like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing > one will > give me an idea what to do. > > If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, > I could > just create another page, and move the contents over. > > Thanks, > brynn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into > my > inbox... > > A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new > template > for the page. > > Page > Templates > Side Bar Page > > I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. > > Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again > (changing back might restore it). > > Maren > > Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > -----Original Message----- From: brynn > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > > which was > > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > > offline > > since my > > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > > working on > > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > > security > > issue). > > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > > go > > through the > > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > > issue or > > not....or if that could have erased the edit mode. > > > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > > we > > try and > > figure out what went wrong first? > > > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > > Contents from > > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > > isn't it? > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > > To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a > > bit, > > when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still > > there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal > > template. > > > > What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? > > > > Maren > > > > Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: > > > I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's > > > what I > > > was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it > > > into the > > > already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal > > > Page, I > > > might need some help with that. > > > > > > I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe > > > Patrick > > > knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't > > > happen > > > immediately, either way. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > brynn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: doctormo@...2... > > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM > > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > > > Hi Brynn, > > > > > > The content to the page looks good overall. > > > > > > CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the > > > Sidebar > > > Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what > > > it > > > will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank > > > page. > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > > > > > On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > As a result of my comment and concern about a long > > > > "warning" > > > > message > > > > which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info > > > > needs > > > > to be > > > > included in the bug report, > > > > > > > > details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug > > > > /17744 > > > > 04 > > > > > > > > and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > > > > > Report a > > > > Bug goes > > > > directly to the Report Bugs page of the website > > > > (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) > > > > > > > > which in it's current state does not really perform as that > > > > kind of a > > > > function > > > > (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I > > > > have > > > > overhauled that > > > > page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website > > > > team, > > > > before setting > > > > it live. > > > > > > > > Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at > > > > the > > > > top would be > > > > removed before going "live"): > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > > > > > > > Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to > > > > at > > > > least skim > > > > through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. > > > > > > > > Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > brynn > > > > (and Patrick) > > > > > > > > PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of > > > > inspirational > > > > "thank you" > > > > sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for > > > > contributing to > > > > Inkscape" or something?? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------ > > > > ----------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------- > > > > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs