Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'm thinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the wider community up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
On Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:17:52 AM PDT brynn wrote:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'm thinkingMaren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
I have been holding off on any further editing and proofreading pending a resolution of the following information for myself.
There are places in the manual where additional information would be useful. Information that is not in the original version. Should it be added? If yes, to what extent should the content be tweaked?
Also ... there was some discussion about reorganizing the manual, changing chapter order and the like.
Apologies if this has been discussed previously. I've only recently joined the manual effort.
It would help to know if the project is mostly about translation or if it's more extensive than that. Guidance please.
Carl
Hi Carl (and Brynn, see bottom),
Am 04.06.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Carl Symons:
I have been holding off on any further editing and proofreading pending a resolution of the following information for myself.
There are places in the manual where additional information would be useful. Information that is not in the original version. Should it be added? If yes, to what extent should the content be tweaked?
This depends on the amount of detail you want to add. It should fit into the book's concept of giving 'just the necessary basics'.
Everything that is not strictly necessary, and does not *largely* improve the helpfulness of the book for someone who knows *nothing* about vector graphics, should be left to the detailed manual for advanced users.
This is just an introduction, for people who want to learn by do(odl)ing, and who will pick up the concepts as they advance. It is meant to be easy - in writing style, with short sentences, as well as in contents.
Would you like to pick up proofreading again where you left? You're welcome to make edits that fit the above description any time, without having to ask for permission.
Also ... there was some discussion about reorganizing the manual, changing chapter order and the like.
Apologies if this has been discussed previously. I've only recently joined the manual effort.
It would help to know if the project is mostly about translation or if it's more extensive than that. Guidance please.
@Brynn + Carl: I think we might postpone the changing of chapter order to a later point of time, so we will get a first, 'working' copy faster, and so people have a chance to gain insight into the conceptualization of the book. Also, that discussion got us sidetracked a bit, it seems, if it lead to Carl not knowing what to do next (and if).
If anything, changing the order is a matter of drag and drop, and can be done any time, it shouldn't stop us from working.
(I was thinking having a skeleton ready at Hackfest time might be useful, in case Elisa and Cédric would like to help work on this then - but of course, I don't know what their plans are for Paris).
Kind Regards, Maren
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need: - a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students. - one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it. - one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong). - 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book. - one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them. - one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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Hi Maren, Oh yes, that's awesome content, and great ideas! I'll be able to get that done today!
Yes, a "getting unstuck" or "faq" or "troubleshooting" section would be great! It will be a little while before I start on that. But it's on my to-do list.
(Looks like I started up a mess, with my recent request to fix one of those type of items via developers! Meaning the draw first, style 2nd debate, which is nothing to do with what I wanted. But oh well, it's progress.)
I'll post when I have a draft ready.
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 4:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need: - a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students. - one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it. - one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong). - 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book. - one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them. - one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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Am 06.06.2017 um 14:29 schrieb brynn:
Hi Maren, Oh yes, that's awesome content, and great ideas! I'll be able to get that done today!
Yes, a "getting unstuck" or "faq" or "troubleshooting" sectionwould be great! It will be a little while before I start on that. But it's on my to-do list.
(Looks like I started up a mess, with my recent request to fixone of those type of items via developers! Meaning the draw first, style 2nd debate, which is nothing to do with what I wanted. But oh well, it's progress.)
I'll post when I have a draft ready.
- Great, thank you! Be sure to post a link, when you are ready for proofing.
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 4:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need:
- a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us
if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students.
- one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various
output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it.
- one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the
Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong).
- 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of
terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book.
- one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with
default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them.
- one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so
they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:42 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Am 06.06.2017 um 14:29 schrieb brynn:
Hi Maren, Oh yes, that's awesome content, and great ideas! I'll be able to get that done today!
Yes, a "getting unstuck" or "faq" or "troubleshooting" sectionwould be great! It will be a little while before I start on that. But it's on my to-do list.
(Looks like I started up a mess, with my recent request to fixone of those type of items via developers! Meaning the draw first, style 2nd debate, which is nothing to do with what I wanted. But oh well, it's progress.)
I'll post when I have a draft ready.
- Great, thank you! Be sure to post a link, when you are ready for proofing.
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 4:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need:
- a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us
if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students.
- one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various
output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it.
- one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the
Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong).
- 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of
terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book.
- one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with
default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them.
- one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so
they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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I'll have a look again later today, first I'll need to get the README on gitlab ready, then I'll make the edits to include a link.
I found a previous version of the news article yesterday and liked it a lot :) Thank you, Brynn, for working on this so quickly and phrasing it so nicely!
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 14:14 schrieb brynn:
I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:42 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Am 06.06.2017 um 14:29 schrieb brynn:
Hi Maren, Oh yes, that's awesome content, and great ideas! I'll be able to get that done today!
Yes, a "getting unstuck" or "faq" or "troubleshooting" sectionwould be great! It will be a little while before I start on that. But it's on my to-do list.
(Looks like I started up a mess, with my recent request to fixone of those type of items via developers! Meaning the draw first, style 2nd debate, which is nothing to do with what I wanted. But oh well, it's progress.)
I'll post when I have a draft ready.
- Great, thank you!
Be sure to post a link, when you are ready for proofing.
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 4:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need:
- a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us
if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students.
- one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various
output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it.
- one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the
Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong).
- 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of
terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book.
- one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with
default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them.
- one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so
they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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Brynn, I've just updated the article draft. Can you have a short look?
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
I'll have a look again later today, first I'll need to get the README on gitlab ready, then I'll make the edits to include a link.
I found a previous version of the news article yesterday and liked it a lot :) Thank you, Brynn, for working on this so quickly and phrasing it so nicely!
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 14:14 schrieb brynn:
I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:42 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Am 06.06.2017 um 14:29 schrieb brynn:
Hi Maren, Oh yes, that's awesome content, and great ideas! I'll be able to get that done today!
Yes, a "getting unstuck" or "faq" or "troubleshooting" sectionwould be great! It will be a little while before I start on that. But it's on my to-do list.
(Looks like I started up a mess, with my recent request to fixone of those type of items via developers! Meaning the draw first, style 2nd debate, which is nothing to do with what I wanted. But oh well, it's progress.)
I'll post when I have a draft ready.
- Great, thank you!
Be sure to post a link, when you are ready for proofing.
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 4:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?
Hi Brynn,
yes, a short news item would be nice to show that work has started on a Beginners' Guide (it's not a real manual, in the classical sense).
I think we especially need:
- a few (not so many!) testers who only begin using Inkscape, to tell us
if they understand it. They can accompany us, but also join at a later point of time. This could also be a teacher, who has experience teaching Inkscape to students.
- one or two artists who want to design a cover image for the various
output formats. This artist needs to be able to find his way around in the booktype interface, and to be able to follow the manual instructions about the interface. Also needs to remember to indicate a separate licence for the cover image - it needs to be CC-By-SA, with the Inkscape icon in it.
- one to three web designers who can take a closer look into the
Booktype CSS options, find out what is possible, and make an Inkscape-y design for the html version of the book, and perhaps also style the pdf. I think epub doesn't have too many styling options available (but I may be wrong).
- 2 or 3 quality assurance people, who can check for consistency of
terms used, html tags used for specific concepts (e.g. keyboard shortcut, menu entry, position of tool icons, ...) etc. throughout the book.
- one or two persons who team up to make consistent screenshots with
default icon set and English interface (if possible, on Windows, as most users will be on that platform). One could make the example svgs (or ask Elisa for them) and the other could make the screenshots and upload them.
- one or two persons who move the pictures around when they are in, so
they are all in their appropriate position in relation to the text.
I think we do have enough native speakers now who can fix strange wording :) Feel free to cut off the parts that don't appear useful in an article. Much of this was meant as an explanation for you.
As for later work, what do you think about this? We can add a 'Getting unstuck' section, perhaps, with hints on what to do when one gets a result one does not expect - which can cover the whole range from 'look into status line' to frequent issues to 'ask in forums' to 'post a bug report'. I think you would be the one who is best suited to compile a list of frequent noob issues with solutions that could be addressed here. If you would like to do that, you can take your time, I know you've got a lot of other tasks to address at the moment.
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:17 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'mthinking Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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Hi Maren, I'm ok with the changes. Just 2 issues.
First and most important. I take the first item in the list as calling for a few beginners to review it. But when I follow the link, the task appears to be calling for one person to locate some beginners and sort of coach them or guide them through reviewing it.
So either the task itself needs to be changed. Or the first item in this article needs to change. Do you see what I mean?
Second is just a style issue. Where you added the links to the list of vacant "positions", as I was starting to read let's say the 3rd item, I felt tempted to click the link of the 2nd item. So I was thinking if we could put the link for each item at the end of the last sentence in that item, it would be more clear.
However, the now empty line space disappears, and I think it would look better with a line space before the next item. I tried editing the source and putting <br /> between the </a> and the </li> but it doesn't take. When I switch back to the wysiwyg, there's no space. And switch back to the source, the <br /> is not there.
So do you know any way to force a line space between items in the list? If you know, I would suggest moving the links to the end of the period (well, maybe a couple spaces after the period) and making a line space before the next item. But if it can't be done easily, just forget it. It's not worth spending a lot of time to research. :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:04 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item...manual...first draft ready
Brynn, I've just updated the article draft. Can you have a short look?
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
I'll have a look again later today, first I'll need to get the README on gitlab ready, then I'll make the edits to include a link.
I found a previous version of the news article yesterday and liked it a lot :) Thank you, Brynn, for working on this so quickly and phrasing it so nicely!
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 14:14 schrieb brynn:
I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
Am 10.06.2017 um 08:54 schrieb brynn:
First and most important. I take the first item in the list ascalling for a few beginners to review it. But when I follow the link, the task appears to be calling for one person to locate some beginners and sort of coach them or guide them through reviewing it.
So either the task itself needs to be changed. Or the first itemin this article needs to change. Do you see what I mean?
- Yes, I've thought about that myself. In the end, I had decided that people who want to join can still do it via adding a comment. I'll update the description a bit, now, to make that clearer.
So do you know any way to force a line space between items in thelist? If you know, I would suggest moving the links to the end of the period (well, maybe a couple spaces after the period) and making a line space before the next item. But if it can't be done easily, just forget it. It's not worth spending a lot of time to research. :-)
- It's a bit difficult to do, if you want translators to mimick it and not lose it while translating.
I think it can be published now :)
Thanks again, Brynn!
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:04 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item...manual...first draft ready
Brynn, I've just updated the article draft. Can you have a short look?
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
I'll have a look again later today, first I'll need to get the README on gitlab ready, then I'll make the edits to include a link.
I found a previous version of the news article yesterday and liked it a lot :) Thank you, Brynn, for working on this so quickly and phrasing it so nicely!
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 14:14 schrieb brynn:
I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
Published :-)
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:15 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item...manual...first draft ready
Am 10.06.2017 um 08:54 schrieb brynn:
First and most important. I take the first item in the list ascalling for a few beginners to review it. But when I follow the link, the task appears to be calling for one person to locate some beginners and sort of coach them or guide them through reviewing it.
So either the task itself needs to be changed. Or the first itemin this article needs to change. Do you see what I mean?
- Yes, I've thought about that myself. In the end, I had decided that people who want to join can still do it via adding a comment. I'll update the description a bit, now, to make that clearer.
So do you know any way to force a line space between items in thelist? If you know, I would suggest moving the links to the end of the period (well, maybe a couple spaces after the period) and making a line space before the next item. But if it can't be done easily, just forget it. It's not worth spending a lot of time to research. :-)
- It's a bit difficult to do, if you want translators to mimick it and not lose it while translating.
I think it can be published now :)
Thanks again, Brynn!
Kind Regards, Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:04 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] News item...manual...first draft ready
Brynn, I've just updated the article draft. Can you have a short look?
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
I'll have a look again later today, first I'll need to get the README on gitlab ready, then I'll make the edits to include a link.
I found a previous version of the news article yesterday and liked it a lot :) Thank you, Brynn, for working on this so quickly and phrasing it so nicely!
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 07.06.2017 um 14:14 schrieb brynn:
I thought I posted that I had a first draft, but now I can't find it. So this is it: https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/812/
Let me know if any changes are needed, or if it can be published as is. Or for those who have access, please feel free to make changes and/or publish it yourself :-)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
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